G Sync Module(?) Price Markup.

[Hedge]

So I just realised there are G Sync monitors available (24") for under £200 now.

This got me thinking about x34 monitors and other high end stuff. The freesync variant comes around £600 and they charge over £800 for a Gsync version.

I assume the panels are almost identical but this Gsync tech adds the cost.

Do different sized/specced screens require a more expensive module, or is the tech the same regardless?

How come £200 can buy a complete unit, yet it seemingly costs over £200 to add the feature to lots of other screens.

 

[JediFragger]

Easy, companies exist to make money and not to be charities. Supply and demand dear fellow, if they weren't selling then the prices would drop

 

[setter]

As far as I know NVIDIA charge a flat fee for the module. Its the monitor manufacturers who add on the extra price.

 

[wunkley]

V good point this. As a recent x34 owner this big price difference between the gsync and XR freesync version does irk me somewhat. I paid £900 for mine, from here, and then the next week the XR was at £600odd. Hey ho, still love it mind.

 

[Hedge]

Easy, companies exist to make money and not to be charities. Supply and demand dear fellow, if they weren't selling then the prices would drop

But from a technical aspect is there any difference between modules in different screens or is it one unit across the whole range?

 

[Disco_P]

Maybe there is cause one is processing 1080p at upto 144hz and the other is doing 3440x1440 at upto 100hz.

Hiwever it's more likely a case that it's easier to ask an extra couple hundred for G sync when you're already spending six hundred for the base monitor.

 

[Hedge]

Maybe there is cause one is processing 1080p at upto 144hz and the other is doing 3440x1440 at upto 100hz.

Hiwever it's more likely a case that it's easier to ask an extra couple hundred for G sync when you're already spending six hundred for the base monitor.

I think that capability will come from the quality of the panel, not so much the processing involved. Although I have literally no idea.

I mean currently the x34 freesync is £589... its gsync is £799 and an AOC 24" Gsync monitor is £199. Its bonkers.

 

[rene.agac]

Not that bonkers imo. Return rate must be much higher for x34 because there is a lot of things that suddenly appear problematic at 34" 100Hz. Backlight bleed and glow is often more pronounced at 34" than on tiny 24". Coil whine often appears only at 90Hz and higher. Some don't reach 100Hz even when Acer advertise it that way.
And then Of course, people tend to more nit pick and change their mind when spending more cash. Not that many can be fussed over returning low-end low cost item on-line or in-store.
Of course it's mostly supply&demand but return rate also influences the cost of production imo and it may not make financial sense to remove module from returned monitor and put it in new one.

 

[JediFragger]

I think that capability will come from the quality of the panel, not so much the processing involved. Although I have literally no idea.

I mean currently the x34 freesync is £589... its gsync is £799 and an AOC 24" Gsync monitor is £199. Its bonkers.

I think it'll be more of a matter of volume though too, they'll sell buttloads of the £199 ones for instance so won't have such a mark-up on them.

I'd be amazed if companies were paying more than $50 per Gsync module from nVidia tbh, probably a lot less...

 

[rene.agac]

Probably less tbf.
If it is 50$ for royalty and the chip then it would be lets say 55$ for shipping and implementation.
Lets say manufacture wants zero profit as % of final monitor price.
Lets say distributors do their jobs for free and shipping is also free. Or flat fee regardless of value of item (same cost gsync or not).
Wholesaller will still double the price of a monitor and what used to be 55$ extra is now 110$.
Retailer will the also want their mark up and 400$ becomes 800$ without g-sync and 510$ monitor with g-sync will be 1020$. Now you slap VAT on it which again is charged based on overall selling price and suddently monitor with g-sync module for consumer would be 250$ or so extra.

This makes me think NVidia charges less than 50$. More like 20$

 

[rene.agac]

And mind you there is a competition with 24" panels. But how many panels are 100Hz 3440x1440? Only 2. And there in no alternative. (XR34 will not run at 100Hz so it isn't exactly the same).
I for one think that with x34 it actually is worth paying extra for g-sync as you get higher refresh too and to me that is worth something in itself.

 

[Panos]

Given the amount of returns of the X34s, I am not surprised for the price difference

The manufacturer has to make profit after all those replaced monitors. They are not charity and price them accordingly.


As for Freesync, Gsync etc the whole thing will be dubious the moment the DP1.3 cards start appearing, alongside DP 1.3 monitors.

Because there is going to be no excuse for either product not to support VESA's adaptive sync, since on hardware level the tech going to be supported. But companies can opt out with drivers not to do so.

When that time comes though and see a Gsync monitor £200 more expensive than a Freesync one, both with DP1.3, grab the tar and feathers........

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It was a special offer price at £200 - normal price is closer to £300 and that retailer put the price back again.

 

[Hedge]

It was a special offer price at £200 - normal price is closer to £300 and that retailer put the price back again.

Well I don't think they were exactly operating on a loss at 200 quid so the point still stands.