galactic interplanetary deep space battles

I really hope not and suspect not. Hopefully a civilization will have to reach a certain level of social intelligence as well as scientific intelligence to be able to leave their home worlds and wander the universe. I would imagine that they would be beyond needing to fight for anything. Hopefully this kind of civilization would be able to harness enough power and want for nothing thereby eliminating the need for wars.
 
howiepoohs said:
I really hope not and suspect not. Hopefully a civilization will have to reach a certain level of social intelligence as well as scientific intelligence to be able to leave their home worlds and wander the universe. I would imagine that they would be beyond needing to fight for anything. Hopefully this kind of civilization would be able to harness enough power and want for nothing thereby eliminating the need for wars.
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They're most likely AI
 
Mynight said:
NASAs new warp drive suggests otherwise :D.
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They've made some surprising leaps forward in that regard, within 2 years the science went from completely impossible to theoretically possible but completely infeasible to potentially feasible to a civilisation sitting between type 2 and 3 and now potentially on the cusp of a breakthrough.

arknor said:
It's an EMdrive not a warp drive

It's not breaking the speed of light :p and neither is anything else within 93 billion light years
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Variations of the Alcubierre drive type techniques are showing a lot of potential albeit on an engineering scale a few orders of magnitude beyond what we are capable of but breakthroughs have been coming at an accelerated pace so who knows. 2 years ago it was nothing more than an interesting thought experiment at best.
 
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If our species ever achieves inter planetary ability, I'd give it an extra 5-10 years and we'll be creating space battles of our own with whoever we find. Kinda sad really.
 
was reading about different hypothesised types of alien race, can't remember the terminology used but one described an aggressive race, that is just dedicated to spreading, destroying and absorbing anything in it's path. When it reaches the point of space travel this advanced, it could likely obliterate our planet instantly before we even get a chance to realise it's there.

Humans would be crap at space travel, we'd try and shoot the first thing that moves.
 
tbyeah said:
was reading about different hypothesised types of alien race, can't remember the terminology used but one described an aggressive race, that is just dedicated to spreading, destroying and absorbing anything in it's path. When it reaches the point of space travel this advanced, it could likely obliterate our planet instantly before we even get a chance to realise it's there.

Humans would be crap at space travel, we'd try and shoot the first thing that moves.
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Pretty sure you've just describe what humans will be like if we ever get to such a level of technology.

We do it here on earth and I doubt space travel will magically turn us into star fleet :D. Merely it would just allow us to mine and colonise other planets until they too are destroyed.
 
Mynight said:
Pretty sure you've just describe what humans will be like if we ever get to such a level of technology.

We do it here on earth and I doubt space travel will magically turn us into star fleet :D. Merely it would just allow us to mine and colonise other planets until they too are destroyed.
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Yeah I realised at the end, why I made the last bit a bit longer so it didtn sound like some crap attempt at a punchline :p

Tbh other life would probably be so different, it would take an incredibly long time to even glean a basic understanding of it .
 
arknor said:
even at the speed of light your not getting across even the observable universe in a single life time
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Thanks to relatively, you could get across in your lifetime if you go fast enough and survive instantly accelerating to maximum speed. :p
 
Given the sheer unimaginable scale of our known universe, it's highly probable that other advanced civilisations have evolved to a point where they're capable of leaving their own star systems and traversing the immense distances to meet each other, be that in order to battle or in the spirit of cooperation and advancement.
 
Rroff said:
Whose lifetime though?

Most of the variables we know of regarding the chances for life to emerge, size and age/evolution of the universe, etc. actually weigh hugely towards other civilisations if they exist being between less advanced and as advanced as we are and a lot lot smaller potential (though not impossible) for them being significantly more advanced unless they exist completely outside of our understanding of the universe.
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Disagree with that. Using an example if life had evolved 1000 years before it did on this planet 3billion years ago, all things being equal, we would be 1000 years more technologically advanced. Just that 1000 years would make a massive difference, look at how far we have come in the last 100 years.

That's just 1000 years, imagine if life had evolved 1% sooner instead, or if evolution had taken a different path and technologically evolved life had evolved much quicker on a planet (due to a lack of major extinction events, as an example)? I agree most life probably would be "less" evolved than us but considering the millions/billions of stars out there that would still mean quite possibly thousands/millions of more advanced civilisations out there.

I personally beileve the idea of us being the only planet with life comes from religion and out need to feel superior only. We are "unique", that's why we "aren't" animals, we are "above" them. It means we can do what the **** we want to the planet and other life forms because we are "superior".once we realise we aren't unique or superior suddenly all that we value becomes worthless. Perhaps then it would make us a better species. If a superior species came along and just watched us, rather than destroy us, then maybe we would realise that we should be helping all the other species on this olanet, not wiping them out.
 
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Hotwired said:
Only if they first managed to do space really really cheaply.

Right here and now it's far too expensive to **** in the paddling pool of earths orbit and so much easier to frankly go round to your metaphorical neighbour on the ground and have a punch up if you're in the mood.

Why should logistics like this be different on another planet.
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People probably said the same 500 years ago about the Atlantic. Why go? It's too expensive.

The logistics change and we now fly to the US in 5 hours for less than a weeks wages. Why will space travel not do that in the future for us?
 
howiepoohs said:
I really hope not and suspect not. Hopefully a civilization will have to reach a certain level of social intelligence as well as scientific intelligence to be able to leave their home worlds and wander the universe. I would imagine that they would be beyond needing to fight for anything. Hopefully this kind of civilization would be able to harness enough power and want for nothing thereby eliminating the need for wars.
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Considering on earth tech generally advances quickest when there is war or major competition of say the opposite. The more warlike a species the more likely they are to get the tech first. Nothing gets tech going like thinking the opposition may get that super tech first, just look at the space race here.
 
[FnG]magnolia;28046299 said:
Which species?

What if frogs had guns?
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We know you're a different species but the rest of us are Homo sapiens, closely related to earthworms, chimps and pigs. ;)
 
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Malevolence said:
Given the sheer unimaginable scale of our known universe, it's highly probable that other advanced civilisations have evolved to a point where they're capable of leaving their own star systems and traversing the immense distances to meet each other, be that in order to battle or in the spirit of cooperation and advancement.
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Or it could scientifically impossible to traverse the distances of the Universe.

Could it be natures way of ensuring alien species never meet?
 
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