Gaming pc build * need help*

[Ordinarytom]

So i'm looking to build/buy a new gaming pc. I already have ssd's and hdd's, and windows operating system.

I would like 1080 ti - which ever you think is best for its buck. If theres only a minor difference to the best one then id choose the cheaper one. but if its noticable i would like the better one.

CPU - I5 8600 coffee lake.

The rest is up to debate, im not bothered about a fancy case. i do want to overclock my gpu and cpu if not already done so cooling will need to be good too.

And RAM should be no more than 16gb, and i dont know if 2400 / 3200 really has an effect on intel cpu's like it does with Amd Razen.

Just to be clear, i am willing to go to AMD cpu or kaby/skylake cpu if there isnt much difference in performance. I dont want to be spending 2k for a gaming build if a 1.3-1.5k build is almost as good.

 

[lee32uk]

Hi

What monitor are you going to be using ? Or is one needed in the budget ?

 

[Ordinarytom]

Acer Predator XB321HK 32 - bought separetly.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Acer Predator XB321HK 32 - bought separetly.

Believe it's £50-80 for OCUK to do nasic build, don't ask for Windows licence S you can get a Key for £25 odd .

Spoiler: Ryzen 2600x

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600X 4.20GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £194.99
• 1 x Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 5 Wifi AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £174.95
• 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £218.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080TI 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £799.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P300 Glass Midi Tower Case - Black= £54.95
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £74.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 1TB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £199.99
• 1 x Two Fan Bundle - Phanteks PH-F140MP PWM 140mm Fan - Radiator Performance= £16.26

Total: £1,748.31 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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[lee32uk]

Ryzen offers better value, and seeing as you are gaming at 4K then not much in it between Intel and AMD.

If you want to lower the cost then drop down to a 6 core R5. There are also cheaper kits of ram available. The 8Pack kit just guarantees it will run at 3200 without any tweaking.

I probably would have selected the Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming board, but it is pre-order at the minute. You can ask ocuk if they have an ETA as that would save another £31.



My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Fractal Design Meshify C Midi Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass Window= £89.99
• 1 x Asus Prime X470-Pro AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £158.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 2700 4.10GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £254.99
• 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £218.99
• 1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 1080Ti SC Black Edition GAMING ICX 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £719.99
• 1 x Antec HCG Gold 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £92.99
• 1 x Alpenfohn Brocken 3 CPU Cooler - 140mm= £42.95

Total: £1,592.99 (includes shipping: £14.10)
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[Ordinarytom]

why have you both gone for Ryzen? is there a reason im missing? or is it just that its much cheaper yet only a little less in performance?

 

[lee32uk]

why have you both gone for Ryzen? is there a reason im missing? or is it just that its much cheaper yet only a little less in performance?

Gaming at 4K means you are more gpu bound, so not a lot of difference between Intel/AMD.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

why have you both gone for Ryzen? is there a reason im missing? or is it just that its much cheaper yet only a little less in performance?

Hard to quote intel when new hot chips coming soon.
End of month will see Ryzen B450 boards which will drop build price

 

[Ordinarytom]

Believe it's £50-80 for OCUK to do nasic build, don't ask for Windows licence S you can get a Key for £25 odd .

Spoiler: Ryzen 2600x

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600X 4.20GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £194.99
• 1 x Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 5 Wifi AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £174.95
• 1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £218.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1080TI 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £799.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P300 Glass Midi Tower Case - Black= £54.95
• 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 650W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £74.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 1TB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £199.99
• 1 x Two Fan Bundle - Phanteks PH-F140MP PWM 140mm Fan - Radiator Performance= £16.26

Total: £1,748.31 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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Just so you know , i went for this build minus the 1TB ssd card. i got a 256gb m.2 card instead, as i alreadyy have a few ssd 500gb cards. Thanks for the help

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Just so you know , i went for this build minus the 1TB ssd card. i got a 256gb m.2 card instead, as i alreadyy have a few ssd 500gb cards. Thanks for the help

Nice ! Hope you enjoy! Let us know how you get on !
Phanteks do make a very nice case !
Stock coolers from AMD are surprisingly good, but if you find it's a bit loud or hot for your liking, isn't to match cash to change in future

 

[Ordinarytom]

i go the cooler from the other build , so should be okay.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

i go the cooler from the other build , so should be okay.

AM4 mounts ?.

 

[lee32uk]

AM4 mounts ?.

If he is referring to the Alpenfohn Brocken 3 from my list then it comes with AM4 mounting.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

If he is referring to the Alpenfohn Brocken 3 from my list then it comes with AM4 mounting.

ah, was getting mixed up if he has a previous build at home

 

[Ordinarytom]

yeh i built it and it all works fine except this : Samsung PM961 Polaris 256GB M.2-2280 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive . the bios cant find it and also it doesnt appear as a drive on the windows operating system(which is installed on one of my ssd's.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Which board did you get ?
And which slot is it installed to ?.

 

[Ordinarytom]

• 1 x Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 5 Wifi AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £174.95

Just to clarify i can use the drive (after formatting it in disk management) but it wont show up in the BIOS and also samsung magician doesnt recognise the card(but can still to a performance test on it)

I was basically trying to clone my SSD drive with windows on it, to transfer it to this M.2 card and run windows from that instead, but obviously it wont boot from the M.2 drive as the Bios doesn't even recognise it.

Also , it's installed into the primary m.2 slot , there is two slots. its the one right next to the PCI x16 slot.

And the SSD drive is installed into the SATA 1 port

 

[Ordinarytom]

I installed the Samsung nvme drivers(which were a massive ball ache to find. But this didn't help with the bios recognising it.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I installed the Samsung nvme drivers(which were a massive ball ache to find. But this didn't help with the bios recognising it.

There are no official drfvers for the SM and PM nvme drives as they are OEM and not retail/consumer versions .
Would be on reason why Samsung Magic and Drivers were a pain to find . OEM vendors have their own for it or just use windows drivers .

Not sure if @GIGA-Man / Gigabyte has come across this issue .

Try giving M2B slot a try . It's the lower slot and is only PCIe only

Lot of issues with M.2 drives with boards not detecting in bios but shown in windows is Drive not seated correctly . Needs to be pushed in quite a bit . Once in should be very little flex


*** Quick Google , seems a user with same issue installed in bottom slot, as top slot giving same issues.
Installed fine, then tried top slot and worked fine ..

 

[Ordinarytom]

I know it point up at an angle , which usually means its in. I did try again and used abit of force so it must be in.