Gaming SFF?

K1LLSW1TCH said:
6am start? Sheesh! :eek:

No problem, I've decided to buy within the next 2 to 3 weeks. Decided on the current SG05, the Zotac 9300-ITX and a Samsung 400GB 2.5" Sata drive. Along with my current E8400, 4GB DDR2 and the 5850 it should make a pretty decent little machine. I'll probably be needing some cable sleeving as well to keep it all neat and tidy. Do you find your rig gets pretty hot with the side panels on?
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Will be interesting to see your temperatures depending on CPU heatsink.

Been considering moving to SG-05 if it would take my passive Enzotech Extreme-X, but not sure how much warmer it would run compared to SG-03 with two front fans and PSU fan.
 
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Bane said:
Been considering moving to SG-05 if it would take my passive Enzotech Extreme-X, but not sure how much warmer it would run compared to SG-03 with two front fans and PSU fan.
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It won't. You have 78mm CPU cooler clearance.

Dimension (L x W x H) 148x148x118mm
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Thanks for the pics. Looks like cable management might be a little bit tricky but I'm hoping some sleeving will make mine a little less untidy when I order it. I've been reading a few reviews and a lot of them do say that the cabling is not the best in the Sugo. Also read about a few issues in regards to using a full size HDD as opposed to the notebook drives, I'm assuming that if I buy a 2.5" HDD I won't have a problem with Sata connectors though.

Temps seem to be impressive with this particular case because of all the grills surrounding the outsides and of course the 120mm fan on the front. The only thing I'm concerned about at the moment is the cabling but I think that's a problem that could be resolved with a lot of time and patience. There's a few mentions of it being a difficult case to work in as well and seeing as this is going to be my first mini ITX build I'm a bit wary of that.
 
About to order the following:

Silverstone SG05B Mini ITX w/ 300W 80+ PSU

Zotac GF9300 Nvidia GeForce 9300 skt 775

400GB 2.5" Samsung HM400JI Spinpoint

LG Slim Sata optical drive

Akasa Sata Cable for slimline opticals

Windows 7 Home PRemium 64-bit OEM

I'll be putting my E8400, 4GB OCZ Gold and the 5850 in there. What I still need to get is the converter so that I can have two 6 pin power plugs to plug into the 5850 but I can't seem to find any on OcUK I'm probably looking for the wrong thing, can anyone gimme a link? :)

I'll also be getting some cable sleeving and shrink wrap but that'll be ordered tomorrow probably.
 
The best set-up for case cooling in the SG05 is to turn the PSU upside down (so it draws air from outside of the case) and then use a CPU cooler that has a down-blowing fan. Any one, even the stock cooler. That way you keep the PSU cool while getting good airflow at the back of the case.

I had overheating problems on some of the hottest days last summer until I did this. The other solution was to remove the 3.5" HDD caddy, which also cut temps drastically. It seems to block a fair bit of air from reaching the back of the case (I was running a passive CPU cooler at the time so the PSU was the only thing creating airflow back there).

K1LLSW1TCH said:
I can't seem to find any on OcUK I'm probably looking for the wrong thing, can anyone gimme a link? :)
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Molex to 6-pin PCIe? Should come with the case :)
 
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satchef1 said:
The best set-up for case cooling in the SG05 is to turn the PSU upside down (so it draws air from outside of the case) and then use a CPU cooler that has a down-blowing fan. Any one, even the stock cooler. That way you keep the PSU cool while getting good airflow at the back of the case.

I had overheating problems on some of the hottest days last summer until I did this. The other solution was to remove the 3.5" HDD caddy, which also cut temps drastically. It seems to block a fair bit of air from reaching the back of the case (I was running a passive CPU cooler at the time so the PSU was the only thing creating airflow back there).



Molex to 6-pin PCIe? Should come with the case :)
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Cheers that's a good tip, I was thinking of doing that, also I'll be removing the 3.5 bay as I'll not be putting a fullsize hard drive in the case, just using that 2.5 that I'm buying. :)

How did you find cable management? I'm a bit of a neat freak I'm afraid so I want to get as much info as possible. I've had a look in the Sugo thread and none of the cabling work in there has really impressed me so far. :(
 
Cable management can be a pain. The front USB and audio cables aren't long enough. It is possible to have it reasonably tidy though if you get a bit creative. Mine is reasonable and would be better with sleeved cables.

Without the 3.5" caddy airflow is a lot better. I don't use it any more. There's room for an SSD on the case floor and then I've got a 320GB 2.5" HDD for storage.
 
satchef1 said:
Cable management can be a pain. The front USB and audio cables aren't long enough. It is possible to have it reasonably tidy though if you get a bit creative. Mine is reasonable and would be better with sleeved cables.

Without the 3.5" caddy airflow is a lot better. I don't use it any more. There's room for an SSD on the case floor and then I've got a 320GB 2.5" HDD for storage.
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Okie dokie. :) From the pictures I've seen of the insides it seems that the 3.5" bracket blocks parts of the big 120mm front fan too. Hoping my graphics card will take kindly to the 300W PSU but from what Tute has said I think it should be fine. Should have a nice stable temp as well seeing as there's that big vent right next to the PCI-e slot. I think I'll definitely be attaching the 6 pin power cables to the graphics card before putting it in the case as it looks slightly fiddly doing it afterwards in such a tiny case. :p

The bits should all be coming tomorrow but at the moment I have no spare cable sleeving or any of that shrink wrap to cover the ends up so until OcUK get some more of the shrink wrap I won't be doing too much to the insides. I might pinch some sleeving out of my desktop, will get some pics up tomorrow of the build if everything goes according to plan. Also I'll get some temps up here as well.
 
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johnny sublime said:
i belive i remember seeing a fully modular 400w matx psu somewhere ill have a look and see if i can find it for ya
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Cheers. You sure that will fit in a Mini ITX case though? :)

carmatic said:
if you are worried about the heat, you could always get this:
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MjEwMg==&lan=us
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Too late. :p

All the bits were delivered this morning, spent the last hour and a bit working on it, everything seems okay although I can't fit the bloody PSU in because my CPU cooler is too tall. Hmmph! Off to town now to get a stock Intel cooler for the time being and may replace it with a Shuriken later on in the week. Still need to get some cable sleeving as well, I did notice the cables coming from the PSU and the front panel are far too long, completely unnecessary lengths but I'm planning to tuck most of the extra cables above the optical drive out of the way.

Pics will follow once I'm happy with the cable management. :)
 
Finished installing Windows, all components working as they should be, I still need to try out the 5850 later on but I'm a bit scared the whole thing will go pop. :o

Cable management in this case is a nightmare, I haven't any cable sleeving and the local computer shops don't seem to have any either. I'd order from OcUK but I'd like to think my tastes are slightly better than neon green cable sleeving that looks like somebody has squashed a frog inside the case. :p
 
Hmm... Seem to be having a bit of a problem fitting the 5850. It fits inside the case fine but when I get it in there's no room for my fingers to get the 6pin plugs into the card. If I try and fit the plugs to the card and then put the card in I just can't seem to fit the card into the case. :mad:

I can see that when the card is in the PCI-e slot there's plenty of room for the cables to actually fit but I'm having a few issues with getting the bloody things in! :(


GRRRRR
 
I had trouble with this. I had to remove everything bar the motherboard and then fit the HD5850 with the plugs in. Then lower the PSU into the case afterwards. It's a right pain in the rear but sadly I found it wouldn't fit otherwise.

The front 120mm fan in particular is an impassible obstacle, it won't go in without removing that first.
 
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I had trouble with this. I had to remove everything bar the motherboard and then fit the HD5850 with the plugs in. Then lower the PSU into the case afterwards. It's a right pain in the rear but sadly I found it wouldn't fit otherwise.

The front 120mm fan in particular is an impassible obstacle, it won't go in without removing that first.
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Bugger.

I've got everything in and most of it is sleeved now as well. :(

I had removed the HDD and the PSU so at the moment I have just the board with all the bits attached. I think I'd better start unscrewing the 120mm fan then. :(

On the bright side this thing is gonna be sweet when I finally get it to fit.

Edit: It fits! I love you haha. :D

Have a cookie!
 
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Tute said:
*munches*
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:D

Oxy said:
Any temp readings yet m8?
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CPU is fluctuating between 40 and 41 degrees celcius, this is with the stock Intel cooler, HDD is at 29 degrees and I haven't downloaded a program to check the GPU yet but will do that tomorrow. This is with general Windows usage btw, I'm just updating drivers, browsing and downloading through Steam so I expect the CPU temps to increase a fair bit when gaming. I haven't got an optical drive in at the moment, I plugged one in to install Windows and then just unplugged it again, I needed the molex connector to plug my molex to pci-e adapter anyway.

I'll get some gaming temps up tomorrow, at the moment the PSU seems to be coping very well although Silverstone are apparently bringing out a 400W PSU which I'll buy when it becomes available. I didn't have any cable sleeving so I borrowed some out of my old PC of which I've only been able to do hafla job with, no shrink wrap either unfortunately so that'll be something for me to do soon.

I'll get some pics up tomorrow, thanks again for your help Tute. :)
 
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