gay/adoption

I agree with spie.

If you are gay and assuming that you have made the decision to lead a "gay" life and participate in a homosexual relationship then that pretty much means that you cant have offspring due to biological reasons.

Therefore you have forfeited you ability to concieve and parent a child. i cant even start to imagine the amount of abuse a child of 12-16 years would recieve for having 2 male parents. It would indeed lead to mass bullying from the majority of their peers, not due to extreme predjudice, due to the fact that thats how kids work. You give them something to abuse and they WILL take the ****.

Not only that but what kind of weird situation would that be watching your parents of same sex cuddle and affectionately kiss eachother. most kids dont even know what homosexuality is till their mid teens and i believe that would really screw up their future romantic life.

But thats just my opinion.

/runs
 
I deeply believe in the concept of "live and lt live", however this country has gone so completely stark raving mad lately that it now seems that to protect the human rights of homosexual couples we as a society are now treating children like fashion accessories.

What about the human rights rights of parents of children concerned that if anything happened to them their children might end up in a homosexual household. What about the human rights of children who might object to being fodder for sociological experimentation.

Almost comically the government has made homosexual couple adoption compulsory so the catholic based adoption agencies now find themselves having their morality dictated by central government!

Homosexuality isn't an abhorrent aberration to be despised and rooted out of society. However it is also not the norm in British society. The government should not legislate to try to make it so.

God, we need a revolution in this country and put all the politically correct, dinner party liberals against a wall and .....
 
Neocon, you seem very young and very ill informed.


A man does not choose to be gay.

If a child was brought up by 2 gay men or 2 gay women I can assure you that they would not want to commit suicide due to mental health and distress caused by the sexuality of their parents. There are, believe it or not; hetrosexuals that should not have the right to procreate, you maybe are a fine example of people who have raised a child that is narrow minded, insecure and biggotted. Maybe if your parents where gay you would be a little more open minded and a more balanced individual.
 
Would those against gay adoption also be in favour of removing a child from the care of a single parent who 'came out'?
 
jegz said:
Not only that but what kind of weird situation would that be watching your parents of same sex cuddle and affectionately kiss eachother. most kids dont even know what homosexuality is till their mid teens and i believe that would really screw up their future romantic life.
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I'm sure the kid would get used to it. I agree there would be problems. The parents would have to explain from an early age that most boys like girls, but some like other boys, etc. But I think some people are blowing the potential problems way out of proportion.

Also who says they'll be kissing and cuddling in front of their kids all the time? I don't think I've ever seen my parents doing that.

EffBee said:
What about the human rights of children who might object to being fodder for sociological experimentation.
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I sort of agree with that. If more kids had gay parents it will become less of a taboo, and less likely to incur bullying. But what happens to the kids in the mean time? It's unfair to put them in the line of fire for bullies when there are other options available.
 
basmic said:
I probably over looked your dry humour, but there we are. :)
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Happens all the time. So what is her name?


PS: I like you. One reason being it's unusual to encounter a homo who doesn't act like a big girl, but I'm sure you're more keenly aware of that than I am. I still wouldn't think it right for you to adopt a child, but I'd have no irrational fears or other objections about you babysitting or working with children. :)
 
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Deadly Ferret said:
Happens all the time. So what is her name?


PS: I like you. One reason being it's unusual to encounter a homo who doesn't act like a big girl, but I'm sure you're more keenly aware of that than I am. I still wouldn't think it right for you to adopt a child, but I'd have no irrational fears or other objections about you babysitting or working with children. :)
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Wasn't sure what you were getting at, so I asked a female friend to interpret your response - "he thinks your messing" was the reply. :confused:

Oh well, if you do doubt I have a male partner, then it's no problem of mine. But I do know that for over 5 years, I have been in a relationship with him.

I'm the type of person who can get on with most people, mostly because I don't act camp - but I still have a streak of camp humour within me, but I am usual subtle with it.
 
i still dont go for this born gay/straight stuff. You are born with no sexual attraction. You then develop an opinion through your sorundings (just like every other part of you life - what colours you like, music you like etc)

So having 2 dads/mums will, if the kid dosnt give up after having the **** taking out of them for 10 years, more than likely become gay.

As for gays wanting kids in the first place thats just crazy. Why should you hold a right which you have opted out of?

(question to any ocuk gay boy or girls) - Do you really think that you could bring a kid up as well as a straight couple (with all other things been equal?) - i dont think you can. Its all about balance which they just wont get.
 
basmic said:
Wasn't sure what you were getting at, so I asked a female friend to interpret your response - "he thinks your messing" was the reply. :confused:

Oh well, if you do doubt I have a male partner, then it's no problem of mine. But I do know that for over 5 years, I have been in a relationship with him.

I'm the type of person who can get on with most people, mostly because I don't act camp - but I still have a streak of camp humour within me, but I am usual subtle with it.
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*I think* he was implying that when you said that you're partner wouldnt like you 'advertising' youself, as in you have a girlfriend and you don't want her to know you're gay. I think! :)

But on topic, everyone keeps saying what would the children's lives be like in school, well then the problem we should be addressing is sexual prejedice. (sp?)
 
Fergie said:
But on topic, everyone keeps saying what would the children's lives be like in school, well then the problem we should be addressing is sexual prejedice. (sp?)
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And what not let kids make there own opinions on what they find acceptable or not? I hate how PC gets forced on everyone. If you dont like people that are difrent to you then thats your choice. all this PC is so rediculusly right-wing its crazy!
 
Fergie said:
*I think* he was implying that when you said that you're partner wouldnt like you 'advertising' youself, as in you have a girlfriend and you don't want her to know you're gay. I think! :)
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Suppose that makes sense. :p
 
TheCrow said:
(question to any ocuk gay boy or girls) - Do you really think that you could bring a kid up as well as a straight couple (with all other things been equal?) - i dont think you can. Its all about balance which they just wont get.
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On the other hand would a single parent be able to do any better job of it?
 
Here is my view on Gay adoption.

What we are seeing now is part of the Cancer spread i described here (read the OP...I predicted this whole thing will happen).

Let me explain myself. People dont choose to be gay and cant help being gay - I dont have a problem with that. Sometimes ago, a thread asked if gays should have same right as us and my reply was that "as long as it dosent affect my rights then i see no problem" Now, how does all of this connect as you might be wondering. Well, we seem to be losing the plot as a society and more of our basic foundation is been eroded by our laws and rules without them or those who make it (politicians) knowning it or even see it.

We live in a society where family values is no longer something deemed necessary, Kids cant be touched (smacked or punished) as they have "rights" and it will seem that we are starting to shake the core of our society with all of these non-sense. Just take a look at the rate of divorce, number of single mums etc. What am trying to say is this - If we are solid in foundation as a society perhaps there wont be need for even a debate like this?

Homosexuals can live and let me live but adopting a child to live with gay couple is just a step gone to far. The foundation of a society (family that is) is very weak imo due to erosions by stupid laws and rules in place....Allowing gays the right to adopt will do one thing - strike at the core of our very foundation that is already weak.

I have so many things i wanna say but i cant seem to paint the picture well...so pardon me if my post feel disjointed.
 
Spie said:
Homosexuals should not be allowed to adopt. They decided not to have a partner of the opposite sex and therefore gave up their right to have children. It's a bit like someone going into a Rolls-Royce dealership and demanding a car without paying. Children are not a lifestyle accessory for poofs.
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Superb post Mr Spie.
 
I knew a fella at school who's mum was gay, no one cared and he seemed like a decent well rounded individual.

If I was a child in care, I would rather be brought up by a gay couple than been tossed around the system willy nilly, then you are asking for disfunctional.

My uncle is gay, he had a child with a girl in an attempt to lie about his sexuality. My cousin has not grown up with a complex about his father.

Just so some of you are aware. Paedophiles are not gay, they dont like men, they like children. There is a very horrible misconception that gay men would abuse children in their care. They are as less likely to do that as you or I.
 
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