Gay marriage legalised in the whole US by the supreme court
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Unless you work in a predominately gay environment and get called a dirty breeder every day along with a load of other I believe the word is "institutionalised" bias.
What I never got was the whole gay pride thing. Why do you need a street march
Pride marks the anniversary of the Stonewall Riots. It started as a protest march against the oppression of LGBT people. There's plenty of information on the Internet if you want to know more about the history of Pride.
No-one is stopping you from having a party.
None of which adequately explains why the LBGT community cannot have a gay pride march to highlight the fact they are an oppressed minority.
If you are being victimised at work report it to your HR department. Victimisation is wrong no matter what the circumstances.
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Hate to break it you pal but you're not the entire heterosexual population, yours is an isolated situation, albeit a bad one. Put it this way: how often do gay people shout "dirty breeders!" at random straight people in the street? How often do straight people get beaten or even murdered by gay people, simply because of who they choose to love? It's not even remotely the same thing and I'm speaking as a straight guy.
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They are celebrating their acceptance into a world skewed completely against them. I'm sure if we wanted to have a straight pride parade, we could do.
Perhaps they're just trying to show the world that they're not as evil as soon people want to make them out to be?
My cousin was beaten to death because he was gay.
When was the last time you saw that against a straight guy? I can count on zero fingers the number of times I've been the victim of heterophobic attacks on the street.
Don't know why people appear to be against the thought of a march/party. Personally I love any excuse for a get together/celebration. Considering the negativity of recent protests, marches etc in London - you would think something like Pride would be a nice change.
Not sure why this was directed at me? I possibly didn't convey that I am fine with LBGT gay pride for the reasons you state.
We are having a straight march next week!! Going from my house to the pub and back!
Careful, might be gays in that pub. Probably best to keep yourself locked up from now on.
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Oh jesus keep you knickers on girls I was just making the point that it occurs the other way. If you are stupid enough to think that majority doesn't exert some form of prejudice against a minority then you are blind to human nature.
The simple fact is that Gay Pride is an expression of Gay people standing up and being shown for who they are and proud of who they are irrespective of how society treats them or has treated them.
So rather than getting on your high horse let's not forget that in a position of a majority gay people also have to have a look at how they exert the power that comes from that majority - whether that be individuals or groups like their shameful treatment of trans until recently.
Oh and nice jumping to conclusions I've never had any hassle related to my sexuality. In fact I can't ever recall experiencing any -ism being thrown in my direction.
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Sorry mate, accident!
I agree with what you're saying here but that didn't come across in your other post at all. Not sure why you've taken my comment so personally though when it was a comment on how the gay community are treated at large.
I also certainly find it odd that considering how much persecution the general gay community has been subjected to that there is so much division within the LGBT group itself but that's a different issue altogether.
its because for a lot of people it's their whole identity they're "gay" ,or "lesbian" or "gender queer" and its all about their little labels they just have so when theres another group that seems to be getting the attention/"detracting" from what they perceive as their identity they get defensive and push back negatively.
i've met far too many people who base themselves on their sexuality, its who they are for want of a better description.
the second that it becomes normal they move on to some more obsuce label or subdivision to try and identify themselves it annoys the **** off me tbh.
Just find people you like and stick various parts of yourselves in each others holes till you're both happy.
I lumped the response together - wasn't directed at you although that wasn't clear. So apologies for that.
There is division because as I suggested above when any group is in a majority role that affords it power then they will abuse that power unless they consciously and actively check themselves from doing so.
Yep gay and camp are different. in the same way being straight and a meathead. While many camp men are gay that doesn't mean gay men have to be camp, or all camp men are gay. In the same way you don't have to be straight to be a meathead.
I find overt camp was rather annoying, along with overt "meatheadeness". That doesn't mean there is any issue with homo (or hetro)sexuality.
It's like the "oh, I didn't realise you were gay", or "you don't act gay" you hear some people say. Because obviously gay people (of both sexes?!) have to act a certain way.
You do know who gives out these labels, don't you?
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