*** GB News *** (stay on topic!)

[MikeTimbers]

Yes, where do you think it came from in the first place?

It's perhaps lessened a bit because of some "woke" stuff being seen as rather cringe though.

While being "woke" might originally been an expression of one's own views, it has become a pejorative from the opposite side. It seems to me to be something that one should perhaps be proud of, that one has realised one's views might be biased and that learning to see problems from an.other's POV might not be a bad thing. To then have that be turned into an insult seems bizarre.

Saying someone is open to another's viewpoint as an insult?

Likewise, being anti-antifa. Does that then not make one a "fa"?

 

[i-bert]

The wiki says:
Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is a term that refers to awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice.

That lead me to a mirram link "social awareness".

Upon further investigation, it's an endearing term to be called woke. It means you have a concience and try to do the correct thing by others, man, plant or beast.

But somehow it has become an insult on face ache and insta-spaz.

That's just being a decent human being, it doesn't need a word.

 

[mattyfez]

Forming your own opinion is what scares the left the most.

They think it’s much better for society if we’re told how to think by them.

What is this mythical 'left' you speak of? Would you be happier being told what to do by a right winger?

 

[arknor]

You'll be waiting a bloody long time for a TV channel like that...



You really do need to shuck that anti-'Left' paranoia rob...the stress over it will hurt you.

I remember the 80s and 90s presenters and journalists being more professional and just reporting on what is happening with the facts.

then maybe you discussed it with people the next day usually with conflicting opinions.
but that's fine because everyone can't agree on everything in life and it's good to have a range of friends with different views on the world.

now its like everyone h as to think the same, dress the same, be a clone of the people you want to be friends with.

it's more like "cult circles" than "friend circles"

 

[robfosters]

What is this mythical 'left' you speak of? Would you be happier being told what to do by a right winger?

I won’t be told by anyone what to do or think.

I’ll form my own opinion thank you.

 

[200sols]

UBI I think is an interesting experiment that warrants further investigation.

I am completely against capital punishment.

The immigration question is more nuanced if your talking about the UK. Nigel farrage would have you belive otherwise, but it was Theresa May as home sec. That decided the cost of policing uncontrolled immigration was more expensive than it was worth. I. E she didn't want the cost of tracing and kicking out 'wrong-uns' on her account.

You sound like most people I know, typically a centrist in my eyes but finding it increasingly difficult to find a political home. Neither of the main parties suits me.

I won’t be told by anyone what to do or think.

I’ll form my own opinion thank you.

Nobody is telling you what to think. Outlets like GBnews might be subconsciously brainwashing you though.

 

[MikeTimbers]

Forming your own opinion is what scares the left the most.

They think it’s much better for society if we’re told how to think by them.

That's just such a dogmatic position to take. There may be some on both edges who believe they have all the answers and that the world would be a better place if we would just do as they say but to say that it's of the left or right is not sensible. It's certain types of both sides.

After all, @robfosters, we're both telling each other what to think.

 

[VincentHanna]

I won’t be told by anyone what to do or think.

I’ll form my own opinion thank you.

By watching GB news and agreeing with them.

 

[Puzzled]

I won’t be told by anyone what to do or think.

I’ll form my own opinion thank you.

Form your own opinion heavily influenced by right wing media

 

[D.P.]

Forming your own opinion is what scares the left the most.

They think it’s much better for society if we’re told how to think by them.

says the person who thinks protesting should be banned and that the government has ultimate authority that should never be questioned.

 

[arknor]

check this audio quality....

had better lines to india when trying to phone virginmedia
anyone have multiple phone lines in the 90s? you could usually tell from an echo someone else had the other handset lifted

what an utterly ridiculous waste of time too, proper below the daily mail even

I think it's a satire/troll channel like "the onion" but worse

 

[JRS]

I see GBeebies are definitely going for reconciliation, bipartisanship and a total lack of bias.

*snort*

 

[deuse]

The wiki says:
Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is a term that refers to awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice.

That lead me to a mirram link "social awareness".

Upon further investigation, it's an endearing term to be called woke. It means you have a concience and try to do the correct thing by others, man, plant or beast.

But somehow it has become an insult on face-ache and insta-spaz.

"Originally the term referred to a need to wake up to, and stay ‘woke’ to, the realities of Black people’s place in America and the system designed to keep them down. "

About as near as one can get.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/05/18/what-does-woke-mean-britons

 

[i-bert]

By watching GB news and agreeing with them.

At least now he has an alternative news program to watch to be able to form his own opinion. This is where we differ, as I believe in free speech and that all sides of the political spectrum should have a voice, left or right, and the individual should then form their own opinion.

Why do you have a problem with him agreeing with what's being said on the channel?

 

[Tony Edwards]

I see GBeebies are definitely going for reconciliation, bipartisanship and a total lack of bias.

*snort*

The irony is lost on these buggers.

Anti woke, anti anti racist, anti lockdown, anti remainers ...

Unbiased much?

 

[mattyfez]

You sound like most people I know, typically a centrist in my eyes but finding it increasingly difficult to find a political home. Neither of the main parties suits

I just don't like to be 'pigeon holed' by any partisan ideology.

Every individual problem facing any counrty demands it's own bespoke solution. There's no left or right, a solution to issue A might be more authoritarian if its a crime/ pubic order problem.

A solution to issue B might be better infrastucture or better public transport.

Anyone who says they are left or right I think is missing the point, and that is a problem with the tories and labour, it's beyond partisan, it's polarising and causes conflict.

 

[Tony Edwards]

"Originally the term referred to a need to wake up to, and stay ‘woke’ to, the realities of Black people’s place in America and the system designed to keep them down. "

About as near as one can get.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/05/18/what-does-woke-mean-britons

Now now.

One of the political words of the moment is “woke”. As with so many parts of British political discourse, it is an import from the United States – and as with so many other things in the USA, its origin is in the Black community before being co-opted and eventually distorted by mainstream white people.

Originally the term referred to a need to wake up to, and stay ‘woke’ to, the realities of Black people’s place in America and the system designed to keep them down. With the term becoming more mainstream recently it evolved to mean a more general sense of awareness to social injustice against all groups, although it remains closely associated with the Black Lives Matter movement.

To opponents of the social aims of such movements, however, it has become a catch-all term for a certain type of socially liberal ideology they dislike – much as the term ‘political correctness’ can often be.

 

[robfosters]

I’ve always thought of myself right wing, but I do have a lot of left leaning views around various issues such as sexuality and the welfare system, so I agree, it’s silly to pigeonhole people too much.

 

[Tony Edwards]

I’ve always thought of myself right wing

You are not alone on that thought.

 

[V F]

You sound like most people I know, typically a centrist in my eyes but finding it increasingly difficult to find a political home. Neither of the main parties suits me.

You're aware there are some people who don't want or aren't even looking for a political home, right? and just want all the BS to end.

I miss the days when most people wouldn't have even uttered any politics that I remember during the late 80s, 90s and up to and around 2005. It was still treated as a relatively personal thing.


The other alarming thing I find with so many today that news channels to so many is like a cult as if they took a blood oath with them. It's sickening. Yet they get played by them, manipulated and most don't see it. The news/media use the public like puppets.