Geek or Nerd

There is always a relevant xkcd

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Geek is getting to the point where it's not really derogatory anymore. Haven't you heard of geek chic?

Hipsters hanging round the apple store wearing black rimmed glasses and skinny jeans.... etc.. ?

more likely arts students than physicists....

If they're geeks then Dappy from N Dubz is a 'gangster'.
 
The actual problem is that we don't have enough words to describe what people do.
That's why the groups are such a wide spectrum, but they still all contain some common ideology.
 
In what way is it meaningless?

Seems to have as much meaning as any other term describing general groups fitting a particular steriotype.

It doesn't even describe a stereotype though. It's just used when referring to people that "i don't like". Sometimes that could be people with some sort of clothing style. Sometimes it could be people who like, say, a film. Other times it could be people who don't like a film.

Even then that falls down when some people will happily call themselves hipsters.
 
It doesn't even describe a stereotype though. It's just used when referring to people that "i don't like". Sometimes that could be people with some sort of clothing style. Sometimes it could be people who like, say, a film. Other times it could be people who don't like a film.

Even then that falls down when some people will happily call themselves hipsters.

erm not really - its no different to chav, geek, nerd, jock, emo, punk, goth or even mod or rocker from the 60s...

for reference:


and


and more recently:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/dalston-superstars/dalston-superstars

also so 'being a ****head is cool' (obv can't link here)

and www.latfh . com (again can't directly link due to sweary)
 
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as above.... those videos give a better illustration of the term but if you want a written defenition then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(contemporary_subculture)

Hipster (also referred to as scenesters[1]) is a term frequently used to refer to a subculture of young, recently settled urban middle class adults and older teenagers. Usage of the term reappeared in the 1990s and persists to the present. The subculture is associated with independent music, a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility, and alternative lifestyles. Interests in media would include independent film, magazines such as Vice and Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.[2]

Hipster culture has been described as a "mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior."[2] Christian Lorentzen of Time Out New York argues that "hipsterism fetishizes the authentic" elements of all of the "fringe movements of the postwar era—beat, hippie, punk, even grunge," and draws on the "cultural stores of every unmelted ethnicity," and "regurgitates it with a winking inauthenticity."[3] Others, like Arsel and Thompson, argue that hipster signifies a cultural mythology, a crystallization of a mass-mediated stereotype generated to understand, categorize, and marketize indie consumer culture, rather than an objectified group of people.[4]
 
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