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Geforce Pascal Review thread

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I will add all the Pascal reviews here chaps :)



http://www.anandtech.com/show/10326/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-preview

First Thoughts
Wrapping up our preview of the GeForce GTX 1080, I think it’s safe to say that NVIDIA intends to start off the 16nm/14nm generation with a bang. As the first high-end card of this generation the GTX 1080 sets new marks for overall performance and for power efficiency, thanks to the combination of TSMC’s 16nm FinFET process and NVIDIA’s Pascal architecture. Translating this into numbers, at 4K we’re looking at 30% performance gain versus the GTX 980 and a 70% performance gain over the GTX 980, amounting to a very significant jump in efficiency and performance over the Maxwell generation.

Looking at the bigger picture, as the first vendor to launch their 16nm/14nm flagship card, NVIDIA will get to enjoy the first mover’s advantage both with respect to setting performance expectations and with pricing. The GeForce GTX 1080 will keep the performance crown solidly in NVIDIA’s hands, and with it control of the high-end video card market for some time to come. NVIDIA’s loyal opposition, AMD’s Radeon Technologies Group, has strongly hinted that they’re not going to be releasing comparable high-performance video cards in the near future. Rather the company is looking to make a run at the much larger mainstream market for desktops and laptops with their Polaris architecture, something that GP104 isn’t meant to address.

The lack of competition at the high-end means that for the time being NVIDIA can price the GTX 1080 at what the market will bear, and this is more or less what we’re looking at for NVIDIA’s new card. While the formal MSRP on the GTX 1080 is $599 – $50 over what the GTX 980 launched at – that price is the starting price for custom cards from NVIDIA’s partners. The reference card as we’ve previewed it today – what NVIDIA is calling the Founders Edition card – carries a $100 premium over that, pushing it to $699.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-pascal-specs-price-release-date

PRICING AND RELEASE DATE
Previously known as the reference cards, the Nvidia-manufactured versions of these new cards will be known as Founders Edition. They’re really rather pretty, with aggressive, angled designs and the now-iconic backlit green GeForce GTX logo.

The GTX 1080 will cost £619 in the UK, which is a little more than we were expecting, considering it costs $699 in the US. Founders Edition cards certainly look the part, with some fantastic design touches and a claimed 33dBa fan that'll run quiet even when the GPU is under immense strain. Still, Nvidia says the Founders Edition price will not change throughout the life of the GTX 1080, which means that price could end up looking rather high when compared to third-party cards when they come along.

Founders Edition cards will start shipping on May 27th.

The GTX 1070, meanwhile, will be priced at $449 (around £391 inc VAT, no official UK price has been confirmed) in Founders spec, while third parties are expected to start from $379 (around £314 inc VAT). Founder Edition cards will start shipping on June 10th.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review,1.html

Overclocking

We'll refrain from making comments on overclocking for now. We know the card can pass 2 GHz on the Boost frequency easily and the memory can reach 11 Gbps effecively. But overclocking at the moment is a mess and requires "specific" drivers and beta overclocking utilities. Once all OC tools are out that work with actual normal drivers we'll be happy to include proper results.




Concluding

It should go without saying that Nvidia has got a killah card here with the GeForce GTX 1080 and, as such, it does come recommended. This little spawn of the Devil himself offers terrific performance, and it offers a nice boost coming from the GTX 980 and is even a good notch faster compared to the 980 Ti and Titan X. However, if you have such a 980/980 Ti/Titan X you probably are not going to upgrade. It's the owners of the GPU generation before that or 970 and lower that will benefit from a product like this the most. The new architecture proves its agility and the die shrink to 16 nm FiNFET shows low power consumption due to lower voltages and obviously the high clock-speeds and that GDDR5X memory offer the complete package that the GTX 1080 is. Depending on street prices you can expect a 599 USD/EURO price tag if you steer away from the, what I find to be a too expensive, Founders Editon card. If you stick to the WHQD 2560x1440 domain this is the card that will last you years to come. For long-term Ultra HD usage (high FPS) however the answer still needs to be found in two cards. But hey, if WHQD is your domain then the GeForce GTX 1080 is a rather future proof product with that proper 8GB graphics memory. Obviously, and I already mentioned this clearly, that alone does not justify a price tag at this level, even the 599 USD/EURO price tag I find to be rather high for a product that needs to replace the GTX 980 as remember, this is a high-end, not enthusiast class product. We'll need to wait and see how severely the GeForce GTX 1070 is going to get limited (or not), Nvidia clearly did not share specs so they can adapt last minute to the media, market and consumer responses. But price/performance wise an 8 GB GeForce GTX 1070 will make much more sense at a starting price of 379 USD. Pricing aside, the performance level the 1080 offers, based on a single GPU configuration, simply is downright spectacular. Keep in mind that today we tested a Founders Edition card, the reference product. The board partners will ooze out factory tweaked products that might run 20% faster, and that's where things get really serious as far as I am concerned, just as long as that price doesn't shoot into the stratosphere. If you game at 2560x1440 (WQHD) then you are covered with 8 GB, it is just the perfect number for graphics memory if you ask me. The Founders Edition itself then, it's a great card that rocks hard and does so while hardly making any noise and stays at OK temperatures. You will be hovering at that familiar 80 degrees C under heavy load though. Armed with some new features like SMP (Simultaneous Multi-Projection) the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 is a great graphics card that will have no problem rendering away hard in the toughest PC games with grand image quality settings. For display output options you are covered for years to come as well. Price wise of course I said enough. And hey, I do have to remark this remains to be in the high-end domain. It's a product that will "love you long time" PC gaming wise, as all hardware variables tick the right boxes. Priced steep for sure, but definitely recommended and we cannot wait to see all the board partner cards. Well, that and the GeForce GTX 1070 of course :)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-pascal,4572.html

Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1080 delivers incredible performance at a particularly opportune time. While the GeForce GTX 980 Ti and its principal competition, AMD’s Radeon R9 Fury X, both achieve playable frame rates at 4K, they still force you to either compromise quality or add a second GPU for the kind of performance high-end gamers want to see.

Enabled in part by TSMC’s 16nm FinFET+ process, the 1080’s GP104 GPU wields 2560 CUDA cores at an unprecedented 1607MHz base clock rate. It offers a substantial step up from GM204 and an impressive boost compared to the former flagship GeForce GTX 980 Ti. In fact, across the eight real-world games we benchmarked today, GeForce GTX 1080 averages 34%-higher frame rates than the 980 Ti at 3840x2160. That’s enough performance to let you run with taxing detail settings and still enjoy the experience. Presumably, it’ll make an equally potent (if not better) VR solution, particularly as software developers get their hands on the Pascal architecture and start exposing features like Simultaneous Multi-Projection.

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Ironically, the card more enthusiasts are excited about, GeForce GTX 1070, probably won’t let you turn the quality dials as indiscriminately as GTX 1080. Then again, at its $450 price point, you could slap two of them together for less than a GeForce GTX Titan X would cost today.

On the subject of pricing, Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang cited two figures for each of the cards he announced earlier this month: one for the Founders Edition and an MSRP for partner boards. As we now know, the Founders Edition is based on the reference industrial design popularized long ago by the GeForce GTX 690. It’s more angular now, but the concept is similar. I’m a big proponent of this implementation, with its centrifugal fan exhausting waste heat from your chassis.



Even if we judge the GTX 1080 at that less favorable $700 price point, it’s still undeniably compelling compared to a GeForce GTX 980 Ti or two GeForce GTX 980s. And although we haven’t seen any partner boards yet, it’s probable that third-party coolers will give enthusiasts access to even more headroom, just as we’ve seen in generations past. While a Radeon R9 Fury X comes somewhat close in games like Ashes of the Singularity and Hitman, there are more examples where Fiji, similar to GM200, just can’t manage playable frame rates at 4K with details cranked up.

If that’s the bar we set for next-gen gaming—playable frame rates at 4K or in VR with quality settings cranked up—then Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1080 is the first card to cross it.

Are we bothered that Nvidia isn’t standing behind configurations with three or four of these slung together? Something tells me we’ll need to get over the awe of what two can do before we can force ourselves to be disappointed by a lack of three.

Remember also that we’re only speaking to the elements of GeForce GTX 1080 that affect gaming today. As a multi-monitor gamer, I’m cautiously optimistic that game developers will incorporate SMP to make playing across three angled screens perspectively correct. It’s far more probable that VR will extract benefit from the Pascal architecture first, though. From “free” geometry through Single Pass Stereo to increased efficiency via Lens Matched Shading and more effective timewarping enabling by pixel-level preemption, there’s a bunch of coolness just under the surface that we’re eagerly waiting for our favorite developers to exploit.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/05/nvidia-gtx-1080-review/

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/nvidia-gtx-1080-graphics-card-review/

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7703/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review-hail-king-baby/index.html

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review/1100-6439863/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...tx-1080-review-hail-to-the-king/#41a79c795119

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/

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Overclocking results


Thanks guys for the links :)
 
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Added a few conclusions for those that are at work and can't access them and also added TechPowerUps 1440P results in games, as 1440P is the gaming sweetspot and that is what I use :p
 
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It's base on the $699 pricing for the "glorified reference edition" 1080.

Anyone hoping to get 1080 at £550, they'd most likely have to wait a month+ for custom cards. People that are planning on going watercooling though...they still gonna have to pay the premium for the reference card, which is ridiculous, as they have to pay the extra for the cooler that they ain't gonna use.

I imagine this will be a popular card and the likes of EK will bring out blocks for EVGA/MSI/Asus non ref cards, so not true on that part.
 
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tommybhoy afaik you dont loose Warranty with MSI when removing cooler and gotten card @ OCUK.

So nice card for vr upgrade from 980ti !!! Just needs AiO cooler 6+8 and better power section board and i am after one

I have also been looking for some VR results but nothing as of yet, well except that stupid Steam VR test that only goes to 11.
 
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u might see the tx prices go back up, just crazy time right now
so you not waiting for custom cards? :o

I would have done but I picked up early on about the temperature clocks and how when the card runs cooler, the 3.0 boost gives better performance off the bat and if the card is hot, it will start to choke. It just makes sense for me to add it into my custom loop that has a 480 rad cooling a CPU only at the mo. I just couldn't be bothered to put my TX under water, even though I had a block (sold it now).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cLYn937ZFE

HardwareCanucks review Greg, they hit 2135 on the core :)

Cheers and added to the OP :)
 
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Very poor card with limited performance jump over 28nm, not worthy of investment, it's a mid range card priced very high. if I was a keen gamer I'd be more interested to buy a top range card even if it costed more than 1080 will cost.

And of course competition has to release their offer for better comparison.

Well sadly there isn't any competition and this is what allows these prices. I guess the world could stand up and say no but then again, I also thought World Peace was possible....
 
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its not very insightful comparing stock against overclock.


Stock vs stock the 180 is 30-40% faster than the 980Ti and 65-80% faster than the 980 it is replacing. That is a very impressive jump in performance.

Yer, I never get why people do that unless they are trying to justify to themselves about not purchasing it. You should always do stock V stock - Oc Vs OC - or even AIB OC Vs Stock as a last resort.
 
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Well the dust has settled and reality has kicked in and I will be getting one still. I see they have custom cooled cards now also, so hoping I can get one of those on day 1 and save me watercooling.
 
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Reference 1080's aren't an upgrade if you own a Ti or TX and you've overclocked them, it's a side step, I'll be waiting to see what the Hybrid 1080's will bring with another power connector, hopefully be a better than 10% O/C and hit 2400mhz, that will make it an upgrade.

@ Gregster, will you be benching against your TX? If so what's your O/C?

Agreed with the top and whilst it might well be a small upgrade going from a TX/Ti, not really worth it unless you just want a new shiny toy and running VR.

And yes Born, I will be pitching it against my TX at stock V stock (which is a EVGA SC TX) and then max stable OC V max stable OC (which is 1427Mhz and +500 mem on my TX).
 
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Cool,but look at my edit - that is my understanding of how Nvidia has tackled it.

Yer, my understanding is unsure of who does it better and we need a dedicated Async benchmark to see the difference. As long as they both can cope, all is gravy in my book but we still need some DX12 game engines to really see the full benefit of DX12.
 
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