Geforce Pascal Review thread

[Radox-0]

The fluctuations in boost clock are very minor (13mhz is 1 step I believe), but then that allows the temp to subside enough to then regain that 13mhz. On the Titan X I would just set fan to 100% and wear a headset if I wanted to run it with a fairly aggressive overclock (1400+) and for it to be able to maintain that clockspeed.

I think part of the issue with the fluctuations was to do with secondary components on the cards with reference design such as VRM's getting very hot also, even if the core was fine. I tested this with a couple of Titan X EVGA ACX 2.0 coolers, which do better in terms of cooling the VRM and power section and saw it did not fluctuate as the reference cooler did given similar core temps.

 

[Aretak]

how is it a "limited performance jump"?

Would you call 15% over a 980 Ti a major performance jump then? Because that seems to be the average comparing one of these reference 1080 cards overclocked versus a factory overclocked 980 Ti, mesured across a whole range of games.

http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/7/

I don't find that impressive in the slightest, especially when the price has been increased by 15% to match.

 

[BriT]

Well you wouldn't expect a person on a 980ti to upgrade, unless their bored. People on 7 series on the other hand will see a big leap.

 

[Five.Stars]

I think part of the issue with the fluctuations was to do with secondary components on the cards with reference design such as VRM's getting very hot also, even if the core was fine. I tested this with a couple of Titan X EVGA ACX 2.0 coolers, which do better in terms of cooling the VRM and power section and saw it did not fluctuate as the reference cooler did given similar core temps.

Yeah that could absolutely be a factor.

 

[Jono8]

Very poor card with limited performance jump over 28nm, not worthy of investment, it's a mid range card priced very high. if I was a keen gamer I'd be more interested to buy a top range card even if it costed more than 1080 will cost.

And of course competition has to release their offer for better comparison.

It is 30%+ faster and uses ~30% less power. Not bad if you ask me.

 

[robbw77]

Well you wouldn't expect a person on a 980ti to upgrade, unless their bored. People on 7 series on the other hand will see a big leap.

This is exactly what i was thinking.

I have a 780 and will get a 1080 and will see a clear difference

The folks who have 970s onwards will see a minimal difference and hardly worth the expense tbh

 

[Jono8]

Or people on a 970 or 980.

Seems about 80%+ faster on average than my 980.

 

[Mei]

This is exactly what i was thinking.

I have a 780 and will get a 1080 and will see a clear difference

The folks who have 970s onwards will see a minimal difference and hardly worth the expense tbh

yeh it depends how much that extra performance helps you in games
i dont think a 1080 is enough of a leap to do 4k single card
maybe its enough to help with high framerates at 1440p, depends on the game im sure
worth waiting for the custom cards
the 1070 might even run cooler and surprise us

 

[D.P.]

Would you call 15% over a 980 Ti a major performance jump then? Because that seems to be the average comparing one of these reference 1080 cards overclocked versus a factory overclocked 980 Ti, mesured across a whole range of games.

http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/7/

I don't find that impressive in the slightest, especially when the price has been increased by 15% to match.

its not very insightful comparing stock against overclock.


Stock vs stock the 180 is 30-40% faster than the 980Ti and 65-80% faster than the 980 it is replacing. That is a very impressive jump in performance.

 

[Gregster]

its not very insightful comparing stock against overclock.


Stock vs stock the 180 is 30-40% faster than the 980Ti and 65-80% faster than the 980 it is replacing. That is a very impressive jump in performance.

Yer, I never get why people do that unless they are trying to justify to themselves about not purchasing it. You should always do stock V stock - Oc Vs OC - or even AIB OC Vs Stock as a last resort.

 

[tbh]

Once the actual high end cards come out (1080ti) the vanilla 1080 will drop in price to reflect its mid-range status.

I keep seeing references to a theoretical 1080 Ti, but what are the odds that one makes it to market?

The 1080 GTX is already selling for Ti money, and as I understand it GP100 yields are low and Nvidia needs all the cores it can get to fulfill orders for compute/supercomputer and professional clients.

Unless Vega out-competes the 1080 GTX then it would appear to make more sense to just keep selling GP104 cores for Ti money.

 

[Jono8]

its not very insightful comparing stock against overclock.


Stock vs stock the 180 is 30-40% faster than the 980Ti and 65-80% faster than the 980 it is replacing. That is a very impressive jump in performance.

Indeed, and I think it is only fair to judge the 1080 on overclocking vs things like the 980Ti G1 when we actually have the custom cooled cards to test.

Comparing something like a 980Ti G1 to a reference 1080 is a bit unfair in my opinion.

 

[DazQ87]

Well it looks like a nice performance increase, as we really should have seen given the die shrink, but I'm still going to wait for vega/1080ti.

 

[Mei]

it will still sell out everywhere....
unless the custom cards rly suck they will too
ppl are thirsty for more performance right now ^^;

 

[Safetytrousers]

I keep seeing references to a theoretical 1080 Ti, but what are the odds that one makes it to market?

Quite high I would have thought. All the NVIDIA stats were comparing the 1080 to the 980, and that is what it replaces, notwithstanding that the 1080 is better than any single card. The 1080ti would be the GPU to replace the 980ti.
Although we don't know when a 1080ti might come out, it might be midway between now and the next generation of NVIDIA GPU...

 

[tommybhoy]

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Afaik MSI, Gainward(in the cooler removal thread saying 'no chance can you break the sticker'), XFX and Asus sold here with warranty void stickers-only Asus had a ** ASUS TURBO 3YR RMA SERVICE: OcUK CUSTOMERS ONLY!! **-which covered cooler removal, but you don't advertise it anymore so that looks to me like cooler removal is off the table again.

It's easy to say it's fine, but the reality is it very well might not be due to lack of communication between sales and RMA teams.

 

[Seanspeed]

I keep seeing references to a theoretical 1080 Ti, but what are the odds that one makes it to market?

The 1080 GTX is already selling for Ti money, and as I understand it GP100 yields are low and Nvidia needs all the cores it can get to fulfill orders for compute/supercomputer and professional clients.

Unless Vega out-competes the 1080 GTX then it would appear to make more sense to just keep selling GP104 cores for Ti money.

It would be lunacy if Vega doesn't outperform a 1080 by a handy margin.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Or people on a 970 or 980.

Seems about 80%+ faster on average than my 980.

or People on AMD.

 

[straxusii]

I keep seeing references to a theoretical 1080 Ti, but what are the odds that one makes it to market?

Given every Nvidia architecture to date has released a full die size chip, pretty high I'd say

 

[pastymuncher]

People on 7 series on the other hand will see a big leap.

Yes, it's a massive performance increase over my 780. When I saw the reviews I was gobsmacked. I was even more gobsmacked by the price though, it's a gigantic leap in price. It's almost twice what I paid for my card.