GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 800MHz Ultra DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (Only £108 @ OcUK)

[gam3r]

Just got this ram, whacked the FSB on my DS4 to 400 and set timings to 4-4-4-12 after overvolting the memory by 0.3v. Brings my E6300 to 2.8GHz. Any advice on what timings to use at 430FSB?

 

[SimonMaltby]

Ram has arrived.

the chips are displayed here... they seem to be the same as on the geil 8000 ram... which explains the good clocks.

 

[Gibbo]

Ram has arrived.

the chips are displayed here... they seem to be the same as on the geil 8000 ram... which explains the good clocks.

If thats the case then the pricing on these things is mental.

No wonder GeIL of rapidly increasing their pricing, I am guessing they've realised that there pricing is well out to the competition. As like I say the G.Skill and Corsair equivalent parts are like $80 more per module to buy in and the GeIL kits do seem superior.

 

[gam3r]

Just got this ram, whacked the FSB on my DS4 to 400 and set timings to 4-4-4-12 after overvolting the memory by 0.3v. Brings my E6300 to 2.8GHz. Any advice on what timings to use at 430FSB?

I forgot to ask...setting my FSB to 400, and using a memory multi 2 means i get a ram speed of 800MHz/PC6400..this is the stock speed for the ram right?

 

[martianrobot]

Just got this ram, whacked the FSB on my DS4 to 400 and set timings to 4-4-4-12 after overvolting the memory by 0.3v. Brings my E6300 to 2.8GHz. Any advice on what timings to use at 430FSB?

Well, I just did the exact same thing and I've got the exact same spec as you as regards CPU, mobo, memory and graphics card - and it POSTed but then crashed and rebooted before Windoze started to boot!

What am I doing wrong here?

I've disabled C1E, Thermal Monitor, EIST, Virtualisation, Fan Control Method etc

Did you make any changes to any other voltages?

God I'm such a noob.

 

[IT Troll]

However it may well only drop to the levels you could buy this Geil for before the "This week only" deal ends on Thursday

Plus in a months or so time we shall be in peak season which will mean memory prices tend to increase anyway, so now is looking to be a good time.

Thanks for the replies guys. Deal sealed, order placed.

 

[gam3r]

Well, I just did the exact same thing and I've got the exact same spec as you as regards CPU, mobo, memory and graphics card - and it POSTed but then crashed and rebooted before Windoze started to boot!

What am I doing wrong here?

I've disabled C1E, Thermal Monitor, EIST, Virtualisation, Fan Control Method etc

Did you make any changes to any other voltages?

God I'm such a noob.

Hmm, first of all when i installed this ram my windows was screwy, so i reinstalled windows then installed my chipset drivers one by one(none of that express install crap) then upgraded the bios to F3d installed all my other drivers and then overclocked. I didn't make any changes to other voltages mate, everything on stock apart from +0.3V to the Vdimm and FSB 400 and memory multi to 2. I am using the purple sata ports(gigabyte controled, not ich8)

Hope you get it working

 

[martianrobot]

Hmm, first of all when i installed this ram my windows was screwy, so i reinstalled windows then installed my chipset drivers one by one(none of that express install crap) then upgraded the bios to F3d installed all my other drivers and then overclocked. I didn't make any changes to other voltages mate, everything on stock apart from +0.3V to the Vdimm and FSB 400 and memory multi to 2. I am using the purple sata ports(gigabyte controled, not ich8)

Hope you get it working

Hmmm... reinstall Windows. And drivers. Again. Bleurgh.

Anyway, I was wondering - I set the timings in the hidden MIT options for CAS latency, RAS-CAS delay, RAS precharge and Cycle time (Tras)... but there were plenty of other options there which I left at Auto etc. Is there anything I should change there?

I'm using the F2 bios but Gigabyte sent me the updated one today to help with the problem I was having with G.skill NR ddr-800 ram I originally got but returned to OcUK. I was going to install it but then read elsewhere of the problems quite a few people were having with it.

I'm using purple port for my SATA2 disk too. Though it's running in IDE mode instead of SATA/AHCI because that was causing my IDE DVD-RW to run in slooooow PIO mode instead of DMA.

Er.... I just been thinking....

Power.

I have an Antec NSK4400 case with a 380w SmartPower PSU. It doesn't cause me any problems with what I've been running up to now, OCing my cpu to 2.33ghz with the DDR2-667 and playing games with my X1800XT.

But perhaps that might cause me some problems in further OCing?

I hope not, seeing as OcUK are using the same case and PSU in an overclocked AMD system they sell. I know these Core 2 Duo's run at a much lower wattage than previous CPUs too.

 

[stoofa]

If thats the case then the pricing on these things is mental.

No wonder GeIL of rapidly increasing their pricing, I am guessing they've realised that there pricing is well out to the competition. As like I say the G.Skill and Corsair equivalent parts are like $80 more per module to buy in and the GeIL kits do seem superior.

Indeed - crazy pricing.
Pleased I picked up two kits for myself now - 4GB of high performance memory at a ridiculously low price.

 

[Jabbs]

Hmmm... reinstall Windows. And drivers. Again. Bleurgh.

Anyway, I was wondering - I set the timings in the hidden MIT options for CAS latency, RAS-CAS delay, RAS precharge and Cycle time (Tras)... but there were plenty of other options there which I left at Auto etc. Is there anything I should change there?

I'm using the F2 bios but Gigabyte sent me the updated one today to help with the problem I was having with G.skill NR ddr-800 ram I originally got but returned to OcUK. I was going to install it but then read elsewhere of the problems quite a few people were having with it.

I'm using purple port for my SATA2 disk too. Though it's running in IDE mode instead of SATA/AHCI because that was causing my IDE DVD-RW to run in slooooow PIO mode instead of DMA.

Er.... I just been thinking....

Power.

I have an Antec NSK4400 case with a 380w SmartPower PSU. It doesn't cause me any problems with what I've been running up to now, OCing my cpu to 2.33ghz with the DDR2-667 and playing games with my X1800XT.

But perhaps that might cause me some problems in further OCing?

I hope not, seeing as OcUK are using the same case and PSU in an overclocked AMD system they sell. I know these Core 2 Duo's run at a much lower wattage than previous CPUs too.

I picked up a x1800xt for me bro and he on a a64 am2 3800 single core, 2 gig ram and the usual stuff, the chap behind the counter at overs advised to use nothing less than a 400w psu on this setup.

 

[martianrobot]

I picked up a x1800xt for me bro and he on a a64 am2 3800 single core, 2 gig ram and the usual stuff, the chap behind the counter at overs advised to use nothing less than a 400w psu on this setup.

Hmmm.... 380w runs fine for me though... and the Antec Smartpower it is a quality PSU, innit? Well, as far as I know. And these new Intels do use a lot less watts.

I'll keep plugging away at the BIOS and if all else fails I'll try attaching a 500w one I've got in another system... it's a Suncom cheapy but it is said to have a 90% efficiency rating.

 

[gam3r]

Hmmm, 380W sounds a little on the low side but it is a good quality PSU. I would advise you use a better psu. As for the memory settings, i only changed the first 4 settings to give me 4-4-4-12 and left the rest on auto.

 

[martianrobot]

Hmmm, 380W sounds a little on the low side but it is a good quality PSU. I would advise you use a better psu. As for the memory settings, i only changed the first 4 settings to give me 4-4-4-12 and left the rest on auto.

I'm happy to report that I'm now successfully OC'ed to 2.8ghz now after updating my BIOS... currently running Prime 95 to test. Temps are 46 degrees system and only 28 degrees cpu, thanks to the Big Typhoon doing it's thang (before OCing it was 19 degrees!)

I scored 20.4 on SuperPi 1m - I was getting about 25 when running at 2.33ghz with 667 RAM. What are you getting? Not a race, just a comparison to see we are on the same track

 

[Jabbs]

Hmmm.... 380w runs fine for me though... and the Antec Smartpower it is a quality PSU, innit? Well, as far as I know. And these new Intels do use a lot less watts.

I'll keep plugging away at the BIOS and if all else fails I'll try attaching a 500w one I've got in another system... it's a Suncom cheapy but it is said to have a 90% efficiency rating.

Me bro had a 375w antec and as i said above was told its not upto the job.

 

[Nocturne_sa]

another member on board.. just ordered them today along with 7200.10 320GB... however need some advice on whether i need anything else for my system.. here are the specs



E6600 or E6400 ?!!
Intel 975xBx Mobo
HIS ICEQ3 X1900XT
Geil 2x1 GB 6400
Seagate 7200.10 320GB
XFI Xtrememusic or Fatal1ty??!!
Samsung 940BW 19" Widescreen
Thermaltake Toughpower 650W

still cant decide between the cpus (big £ diff between 6600 and 6400 is that worth it?) and the sound card...suggestions? anything else missing (apart from the usuals dvd drive etc)

cheers!

 

[martianrobot]

Me bro had a 375w antec and as i said above was told its not upto the job.

Yeah, I'm thinking I might have been better off spending an extra £30 and going for the Sonata II with the 450w PSU. This NSK case is a bit cramped too!

 

[stoofa]

another member on board.. just ordered them today along with 7200.10 320GB... however need some advice on whether i need anything else for my system.. here are the specs



E6600 or E6400 ?!!
Intel 975xBx Mobo
HIS ICEQ3 X1900XT
Geil 2x1 GB 6400
Seagate 7200.10 320GB
XFI Xtrememusic or Fatal1ty??!!
Samsung 940BW 19" Widescreen
Thermaltake Toughpower 650W

still cant decide between the cpus (big £ diff between 6600 and 6400 is that worth it?) and the sound card...suggestions? anything else missing (apart from the usuals dvd drive etc)

cheers!

I went for the E6600 because I wasn't actually going to overclock.
In the end I couldn't resist and I'm now running my E6600 @ 3.2Ghz and it's 100% stable.
Running an E6600 @ 3.2Ghz is considered a pretty low overclock compared to what some people are seeing.
If you buy a E6400 you'll see 3Ghz easily if not more depending on how brave you are
What you are losing is 2mb cache (4mb on the E6600 and 2mb on the E6400) but tests have shown that isn't making a big difference.

Don't get me wrong I'm more than happy with my E6600 and I feel that because it's sitting at 3.2Ghz it has got plenty of life - quad cores will have been released and taken their first price drop before I'm considering my next upgrade.
However if I was doing it again now I would be extremely tempted by the E6400 and in fact I may well go for one for my fiancee's machine.

 

[SimonMaltby]

Well my results proved somewhat disapointing i'm afraid.

Before i start i would point out that i have become aware that my motherboard bios is very poor when it comes to RAM settings. Asus only let you set the 4 main variables. I have discovered that, like AMD64 memory settings, some of the lesser variables can be as important for good clocks.

With that in mind my comparison relates to my existing OCZ EL Plat 6400 4,5,4,15 2.1v which i run at 360FSB 4:5 which is 900Mhz using stock settings.

Onto the Geil results:

I had the following success when posting into the bios....
1. 360 FSB Ram 1:1 DDR720 at 3,4,4,10 2.2v
2. 360 FSB Ram 4:6 DDR1080 at SPD (board reads as 5,6,6,18 - board issue) 2.2v
3. 360 FSB Ram 4:5 DDR900 at 4,4,4,12 2.1v

Memtest failed with ALL of the above. This is due i think to the way the Asus mobo sets the hidden ram variables... very poor.

Windows ran at:
1. 360FSB 1:1 DDR720 3,4,4,10 2.2v and if i changed the ram settings in windows it run to 390FSB DDR780 - would not do 400FSB DDR800

2. 360FSB 3:4 DDR960 SPD 2.2v
3. 360FSB 4:5 DDR900 4,4,4,12 2.1v

I see such a small improvement in real useability over my ocz the only difference 4,4,4,12 instead of 4,5,4,15. Although the OCZ will not post above DDR975 so there is hope.

I think the Geil is good for DDR1000 at 4,4,4,12 and possibly DDR1100 at 5,5,5,15 but until this board is sorted i'm wasting my time with it.

I have now put the ram in with the OCZ and its stable at 360FSB 4:5 DDR900 4,5,4,15 2.1v so i now have 4GB ram in the system. I'm happy with that until the bios is sorted.

Summary:
Not the fantastic ram i was seeking, but as good as my OCZ, which is on a par with most Gskill HZ i have seen.... so excellent value for money.

 

[lordedmond]

Well my results proved somewhat disapointing i'm afraid.

Before i start i would point out that i have become aware that my motherboard bios is very poor when it comes to RAM settings. Asus only let you set the 4 main variables. I have discovered that, like AMD64 memory settings, some of the lesser variables can be as important for good clocks.

With that in mind my comparison relates to my existing OCZ EL Plat 6400 4,5,4,15 2.1v which i run at 360FSB 4:5 which is 900Mhz using stock settings.

Onto the Geil results:

I had the following success when posting into the bios....
1. 360 FSB Ram 1:1 DDR720 at 3,4,4,10 2.2v
2. 360 FSB Ram 4:6 DDR1080 at SPD (board reads as 5,6,6,18 - board issue) 2.2v
3. 360 FSB Ram 4:5 DDR900 at 4,4,4,12 2.1v

Memtest failed with ALL of the above. This is due i think to the way the Asus mobo sets the hidden ram variables... very poor.

Windows ran at:
1. 360FSB 1:1 DDR720 3,4,4,10 2.2v and if i changed the ram settings in windows it run to 390FSB DDR780 - would not do 400FSB DDR800

2. 360FSB 3:4 DDR960 SPD 2.2v
3. 360FSB 4:5 DDR900 4,4,4,12 2.1v

I see such a small improvement in real useability over my ocz the only difference 4,4,4,12 instead of 4,5,4,15. Although the OCZ will not post above DDR975 so there is hope.

I think the Geil is good for DDR1000 at 4,4,4,12 and possibly DDR1100 at 5,5,5,15 but until this board is sorted i'm wasting my time with it.

I have now put the ram in with the OCZ and its stable at 360FSB 4:5 DDR900 4,5,4,15 2.1v so i now have 4GB ram in the system. I'm happy with that until the bios is sorted.

Summary:
Not the fantastic ram i was seeking, but as good as my OCZ, which is on a par with most Gskill HZ i have seen.... so excellent value for money.

I am afraid I have to totaly agree with you but until Asus sort out the P5 family of mother boards its a bit wasted but i hapoe it will be of use later.

BTW i am running a P5 ( cheap skate that i am )

 

[lordedmond]

To update you all

Asus have got a new bios ot thier FTP site ver 309 prev 211

now the MB will boot with this mem at 800hz as it say on the tin

So it look like some mem problems have been fixed on this MB Asus P5B