General health & fitness advice please?

I started training a few months ago and while I'm nowhere near as experienced as the guys on this forum I did a lot of reading and tried to approach it in the "right" way. Everything I read indicated that focusing on isolated exercises was a poor idea for the beginner. So I concentrated on compound exercises using free weights, such as squats, deadlifts, dips, pull ups, bench press, barbell row and overhead press. I kind of followed the stronglifts approach of 5x5 although I haven't followed an exact programme.

Combined with a good diet I am genuinely surprised how much benefit it has given already.

EDIT: mid 40's too and my motivation was an ever increasing waistline. Also I think you need a bit more protein in your diet. Mine isn't too different to yours but I have chicken or fish for lunch and for breakfast I often have a scoop of whey with my oats, or sometimes have Fage 0% fat greek yogurt which is quite high in protein.
 
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Thanks for all of the replies guys, much appreciated!

I've watched a few video's this weekend to try and get the "form" right and so tonight I'm going to give it a go for the first time!

Having watched the video's it isn't entirely clear (or maybe I missed it!) how long I should rest in between the sets of 5 exercises??

Also, there is little mention of warming up other than to do reps without my weights on the bar - but as a total beginner I'm not putting weights on right away anyway so does that mean I don't need to warm up??

Got the squats, bench press and barbell row tonight - have to admit I'm a bit nervous about the barbell row simply because of my back problems in the past!
 
Good luck!

Rest time for you will be two minutes: any shorter and your circulation/stress factors won't have reduced to a 'normal' level (i.e. you'll still be "tired" from the last set).

For the sake of form, I would recommend having a bit of prep before hitting the rack. Lie flat on your back with your heels tucked up under your bum. Now, arrange your lumbar so that you can get one of your sets of fingers under your lumbar spine (i.e. a gap of around a finger's wide between the floor and your spine) Now squeeze your 'abz' as if you're fighting a battler. This is 'core' bracing in a neutral position. Your spinal position shouldn't change, but should solidify and be nice and robust.

Now, before slacking off this bracing, push both your heels into the ground for a 'glute bridge' or whatever it's called. Keep your bracing the entire movement and lower yourself back down - fully braced. Now feel the gap between your lumbar and the floor: still the same? Then you're good to go. If it's different, relax, and then - still lying down - tilt your pelvis around (this might involve some weird/wonderful muscles contracting, but it works...) to find that "neutral" position.

If you can hold this position through the glute bridge, you can hold it when squatting. I would recommend starting with goblet squats first as these are the most forgiving: keep the weight over your heels and sit down between your ankles.

I would strongly suggest taking a video, too, as the chances are you won't get down very low (being office-based) and will have very short Rectus Femoris muscles, as well as very tight hip adductors/extensors. As you descend through the movement, watch for where your lumbar starts to tuck under, following your bum: stop your descent and this point and go back up. And then visit the Mobility thread (the link is in the OP of the GymRats thread). This will stop your lower back hurting if your mobility isn't great.

Warming up? This is pretty much everything you feel comfortable with to get comfortable with the movement. you're about to perform. For squats, I generally perform the 'squat' without a bar (hands overhead or out front) for around three sets of ten reps to make sure the muscles concerned are awake and not too stiff. But it varies from person to person... some will attack the bar straight off; others need to row/cycle for five/ten minutes before even thinking about lifting...

If you think of it as preparing your central nervous system for activity, then you're 80% the way there. :)

Finally, regarding the rows, use exactly the same principle as for the squats: brace your core so that the load transfers from your back onto your hamstrings and glutes. Remember: your back problems were probably caused by poor core strength and even worse mobility (at the hips, between your vertebrae and probably even your shoulders and pecs), so take this slowly. You should be able to feel if your back is completely flat (first off), but if you're doing it right, your hamstrings will start to ache pretty soon. :)

And guess how my back problems were cured? Lifting weights. Because my back is now used to being in a neutral position, and can be held there very effectively. My physio explained I had the horrific back pain simply because I was a pathetically weak person, so getting strong = getting better. :)

Regardless, we're here to help, so any questions: fire away!

Good luck. :)
 
Firstly all the advice above is sound, however.....

If you want to be able to keep up with the kids you need stamina not strength. Stronglifts is a great program for building strength but there are better ways to "get fit".

If you gym has any cardio/HIIT classes sign up and do them instead or perhaps as well as. Look for names like Body Pump, RPM, Spin, Insanity, Metafit (the last 2 are currently "in fashion"). There's a general (chauvinistic) feeling that classes are for women but trust me, if its a well designed circuit/routine it will scale from "slight glow" to "brutal".

I'm not dismissing Stronglifts, not by any stretch (been there, built the spreadsheet), but I think you'll see better "fitness" results and get more motivation from classes. Once you've got your moobs under control look to build more muscle and strength.
 
Firstly all the advice above is sound, however.....

If you want to be able to keep up with the kids you need stamina not strength. Stronglifts is a great program for building strength but there are better ways to "get fit".

If you gym has any cardio/HIIT classes sign up and do them instead or perhaps as well as. Look for names like Body Pump, RPM, Spin, Insanity, Metafit (the last 2 are currently "in fashion"). There's a general (chauvinistic) feeling that classes are for women but trust me, if its a well designed circuit/routine it will scale from "slight glow" to "brutal".

I'm not dismissing Stronglifts, not by any stretch (been there, built the spreadsheet), but I think you'll see better "fitness" results and get more motivation from classes. Once you've got your moobs under control look to build more muscle and strength.

In all seriousness. .. do you even lift? ;) (j/k have wanted to do that for ages...)

I haven't done "cardio" in about three years - one-off sesions of tabata (maybe two in the past three years) aside - and I have no problems keeping up with my two kids. Yes, I am naturally awesome, but do you think that I am not working my cardiovascular system when lifting? :)

HIIT is great,but - just like Stronglifts - not the only answer. I prefer strength training because it is nice to have something to show off when all that fat has been melted away. ;)
 
In all seriousness. .. do you even lift? ;) (j/k have wanted to do that for ages...)

I haven't done "cardio" in about three years - one-off sesions of tabata (maybe two in the past three years) aside - and I have no problems keeping up with my two kids. Yes, I am naturally awesome, but do you think that I am not working my cardiovascular system when lifting? :)

HIIT is great,but - just like Stronglifts - not the only answer. I prefer strength training because it is nice to have something to show off when all that fat has been melted away. ;)

Yeh bro!!! ;)

As I said, I've been there, got the spreadsheet. Not doubting the fitness benefit of 5x5 however you're looking at this from your own awesome perspective not that of a man in his late thirties with a moob complex :p

I think Stevie will get quicker results from more cardio/HIIT focused workouts. Something overlooked with group exercise is the camaraderie. It's fine having internet buddies give you advice and a virtual pat on the back but meeting the same people each week and sharing an experience adds so much more motivation. We are social animals after all.

As I've got older I've realised it's more important to be able to move yourself before you can move weights. If you can't bodyweight squat, pressup, burpee etc. how are you going to manage with a loaded bar? Movement in this sense is a combination of strength and mobility.

I didn't want to write a wall of text about how mobility is more important than anything else (glad to see you touched on it in your post) but if we're going to steer Stevie down the path of full ROM squats, deadlifts etc with 5x5 with existing back problems we probably need to emphasise mobility.

Stevie - If you sit down most of the day, you're probably a prisoner in your own pelvis. Lengthen your hip flexors and open up your hips, your back will thank you ;)
 
Lifting weights and researching and applying mobility techniques is doing my own 'desk-back' chronic pain absolute wonders. Its not a silver bullet but its getting there slowly and the rest of my body is firming up at the same time.

I used to be a gymnast and sprinter and over many years of desks, cars and trains my pelvis, hips and back got into all kinds of tightness and problems. I recommend Ming Chew's 'Permanent pain cure' as a good starter - I did that for 4 weeks before venturing into a gym - well worth the investment in time. Then I bought 'Supple Leopard' and Rippetoe's 'Starting strength' and they are helping me to fix and improve both strength technique and mobility.

I thought my legs had gone and all my explosive strength faded with age/ lack of use. 8 weeks in and this week I left my dog standing in a sprint race - should have seen her shocked doggy face!

Good luck to you. Despite what I said about sprinting, its not a race so pace yourself and keep your eye on where you want to be short and long term. Persevere!
 
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys!

I appreciate the different points of view but I've decided to give the Stronglift program a go to see how I get on!

I like the idea of a relatively short workout as well as the strengthening of my "core" so I'll try the program for the initial 12 weeks and see how I go on!

Now my progress hasn't been quite so positive so far - couldn't get close to the necessary equipment on Monday night so just did some cardio and a few squats with a hand weight.

Wednesday night I went a little later so it wasn't so busy and did "Program A" (squats, bench press and barbell row) - All done with relative ease (in fact I felt a bit of a fraud taking the recommended 90 second break in between) but today my legs especially feel like I've run a marathon!!! :eek:

Anyway, rest day today and on to program B tomorrow!

Wish me luck!
 
Just a quick update on this, I started doing the Stronglifts program a few weeks ago, although it was interrupted slightly with one of the kids getting poorly and then a couple of nights out eating & drinking for my 40th! :p

On the whole though I'm starting to feel the benefits to be honest!

I've sometimes struggled to get access to the necessary weights racks/bars at my gym but on the whole managed to do the different exercises OK - in fact I felt a bit of a spanner putting the smallest possible weights on the bar to start with, especially on the squats - but they increase faster than all the others because I'm doing them every other day so it's getting better!

The app suggested a 90 second rest in between sets but especially on the lower weights I really didn't need this - although again it's quickly becoming a longer rest as it gets harder!!

My weight has reduced to around 15 1/2 stone but I'm also still dieting pretty stringently too but the biggest difference has been to my back pain which seems to have reduced considerably already! (I imagined some of the exercises would make it worse, not better - barbell row especially but in fairness it seems to be doing the trick nicely!)

All in all a positive start so will report back when I'm a bit deeper into it!

Thanks for all the suggestions guys!
 
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