Gentoo!

paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 10:21

Just thought id add to this thread, currently posting from links after getting to stage 6.c (Progressing from Stage1 to Stage2). I had downloaded the live (universal) CD last week, but hadnt got the motivation to kill my mandrake 10 installation, just to try and learn a little more linux (via installing gentoo from scratch, starting with the stage 1 tarball).

This thread is great, its given me both the motivation, and the backup that if i go horribly wrong, ive still got people out there who can help, ive read this thread with great interest

So keep up the good work lads, one of us will have a working gentoo install soon hopefully!

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 10:26

Originally posted by paradigm
Just thought id add to this thread, currently posting from links after getting to stage 6.c (Progressing from Stage1 to Stage2). I had downloaded the live (universal) CD last week, but hadnt got the motivation to kill my mandrake 10 installation, just to try and learn a little more linux (via installing gentoo from scratch, starting with the stage 1 tarball).

This thread is great, its given me both the motivation, and the backup that if i go horribly wrong, ive still got people out there who can help, ive read this thread with great interest

So keep up the good work lads, one of us will have a working gentoo install soon hopefully!

Good luck mate, almost everyone falls into some sort of problem on there first install (usually because they missed something in the handbook). Just stick with it mate, any problems were always here

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 10:31

Originally posted by paradigm
Just thought id add to this thread, currently posting from links after getting to stage 6.c (Progressing from Stage1 to Stage2). I had downloaded the live (universal) CD last week, but hadnt got the motivation to kill my mandrake 10 installation, just to try and learn a little more linux (via installing gentoo from scratch, starting with the stage 1 tarball).

This thread is great, its given me both the motivation, and the backup that if i go horribly wrong, ive still got people out there who can help, ive read this thread with great interest

So keep up the good work lads, one of us will have a working gentoo install soon hopefully!

nice to see you are using links too. i think its brilliant to be able to refer to the internet whilest doing something so complicated.

i hope it all goes well, its a good sign that this is your 1st post, but the hardest parts are yet to come. also even though it will be complicated and frustrate you no end, compile your own kernel, dont use genkernel. you wont be able to survive gentoo very long if you dont know how to compile you own kernel. Ive done it about 20 times in the last 6 weeks, just try to optimize everything and try out new features.

paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 10:38

You see, its things like that ive never learnt (or never had a need to learn), compiling kernels, sounds quite daunting actually.

When you say dont use a genkernel, im right in saying im going to be taking a starting point, a "default" kernel, that ill customise and compileasmy own?

You give it a few hours, and ill be back with a nice juicy problem for you all

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 10:45

Originally posted by paradigm
You see, its things like that ive never learnt (or never had a need to learn), compiling kernels, sounds quite daunting actually.

When you say dont use a genkernel, im right in saying im going to be taking a starting point, a "default" kernel, that ill customise and compileasmy own?

You give it a few hours, and ill be back with a nice juicy problem for you all

well the kernel as it is has some defaults preset, but this by no means will give you a working kernel. The things you have to do first time is get all your hardware's drivers in there and make sure your filesystems are compiled in!

the problem with genkernel is it compiles way too much into the kernel just so that everything works. of course the problem then is that when you remove something you wouldnt know if it was a vital part or not.

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 10:47

Originally posted by paradigm
You see, its things like that ive never learnt (or never had a need to learn), compiling kernels, sounds quite daunting actually.

When you say dont use a genkernel, im right in saying im going to be taking a starting point, a "default" kernel, that ill customise and compileasmy own?

You give it a few hours, and ill be back with a nice juicy problem for you all

Yes , it the "default manual" config way (7.c. Default: Manual Configuration) rather than use 7.d. Alternative: Using genkernel. Once you've rolled your own kernel a few times it actually very easy, theres a few essential features you need setting and you need to know what hardware you've got, which isn't normally a problem for folks on an overclocking forum

Other than that it's dead easy.

burns · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:12

So it sounds like I need to mket2fs /dev/hda1 then recompile my kernel and reinstall grub then? I warn you it took a few hours to compile the kernel on by PII400

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Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:17

Originally posted by burns
So it sounds like I need to mket2fs /dev/hda1 then recompile my kernel and reinstall grub then? I warn you it took a few hours to compile the kernel on by PII400.

Did you try reinstalling grub to the bootloader with this section of the manual?

Code:

grub> root (hd0,0) (your boot partiiton)
grub> setup (hd0) (the mbr)

burns · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:34

Ok, I can't run grub, which I assume is because I need to do the chroot bit. When I do chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash I get:
chroot: cannot run command "/bin/bash" : no such file or directory.

/bin is a link to /mnt/livecd/bin so I'm guessing I should have mounted /dev/hda3 to somewhere at some point?

paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:39

hda3 should be mounted to /mnt/gentoo iirc

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:45

Correct you must first mount the drive (/dev/hda3) in /mnt/gentoo

burns · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:46

Cheers paradigm, I've reinstalled GRUB now, still using the same .conf file though. I still get error 2 when I restart though

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paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:46

woo, im starting to remember stuff

EDIT: im so bored waiting for this to boostrap.sh !!!!

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:51

Originally posted by burns
Cheers paradigm, I've reinstalled GRUB now, still using the same .conf file though. I still get error 2 when I restart though.

I suggest recompiling the kernel. Any chance of uploading the kernel so we can take a look?

burns · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:52

Sure, you mean the .config file for it I guess?

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:55

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 11:57

ok, i think i have a plan

1. check your bios, because error 2 is:

2 : "Selected disk doesn't exist"

This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full filename refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.

just make sure that its in the boot order and all is ok.

(i assume you are attempting to boot without the CD in there)

2. maybe try lilo? what do you recon mpemba? ive never used it personally but it might be worth a try, i think its likely to work better with older hardware due to its age?

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 12:01

I have only briefly used lilo before, but I think I know it well enough to talk old burns through it

burns · 5 Aug 2004 at 12:14

Ok, I'll give lilo a shot, I'm just trying to email myself my kernel .config file using webmail through links2 at the moment which is proving difficult...

burns · 5 Aug 2004 at 12:20

http://www.selman.demon.co.uk/linux/help/.config.burns