Gentoo!

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 16:50

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Originally posted by Deadly Ferret
Sorry, I've got another one. I've got my grub.conf sorted out, and I used

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emerge --usepkg gnome

to unpack Gnome from the packages CD. That seemed to go okay, but it did say at the end that one of my config files in /etc needed updating, but didn't identify which one. I don't really see what I can do about that, but if anyone knows what it's on about and can help that would be great.

Well I have linux appearing to work properly without the liveCD now, and as said Gnome is supposedly there, but when I select the Gentoo option in Grub, I end up in Linux, logged in as root, and it doesn't load Gnome automatically as I was expecting. As much as I've enjoyed the hours and hours and hours of fun learning that I've been suffe...er...experiencing, there's time for me to get better and do funky Gentoo-type CLI things later, but for now I'd just like to be able to have a relatively simple desktop on the machine in question.

How should I proceed please?

# etc-update

that will lead you through updateing, i tend to overwrite all files.

# rc-update add xdm default
# nano -w /etc/rc.conf

at the bottom change it to:

DISPLAYMANAGER="gdm"
XSESSION="Gnome"

now when you boot it should boot to the gnome login

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 16:52

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Originally posted by Deadly Ferret
Sorry, I've got another one. I've got my grub.conf sorted out, and I used

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emerge --usepkg gnome

to unpack Gnome from the packages CD. That seemed to go okay, but it did say at the end that one of my config files in /etc needed updating, but didn't identify which one. I don't really see what I can do about that, but if anyone knows what it's on about and can help that would be great.

Well I have linux appearing to work properly without the liveCD now, and as said Gnome is supposedly there, but when I select the Gentoo option in Grub, I end up in Linux, logged in as root, and it doesn't load Gnome automatically as I was expecting. As much as I've enjoyed the hours and hours and hours of fun learning that I've been suffe...er...experiencing, there's time for me to get better and do funky Gentoo-type CLI things later, but for now I'd just like to be able to have a relatively simple desktop on the machine in question.

How should I proceed please?

The message you get is when a file in /etc need updating. Gentoo will not automatically update these for you since /etc hold system configurations and these obviously can be custom configured. Thus is gentoo was to update them you may lose your configuration.

Now these files in /etc are hidden with a dot at the beginning and normall begin with something like

._cfgblah-somefile

you can find them by typing

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cd /etc
find -name "._*"

Now normally I do

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diff ._cfgblah-somefile somefile

to find out what the differences are and if theres nothing apart from the timestamp i'd just

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mv ._cfgblah-somefile somefile

thus replacing the original with the new version. If theres some significant difference say new configuration lines i'd up date the new file with my old configs and overwrite the old.

Gentoo does have a tool called "etc-update" and will update those file for you but I don't trust it

I do mine manually like above.

As for you gnome issue I suspect you need to do

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rc-update add xdm default

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml

edit: and change rc.conf like riven suggests

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 16:53

Originally posted by paradigm
Woo, it boots, only problem i have is the same as burns' network interface problem, just going back to check i used the correct module now

well done, youve done well so far. the easyway to find a module if you only know the module name is

# cd /usr/src/linux
# find ./ -name *<module name>* (with the *'s there)

that will return a folder path with should give you an idea of where in menuconfig to be looking

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 16:55

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
Gentoo does have a tool called "etc-update" and will update those file for you but I don't trust it I do mine manually like above.

haha, i updated to X.org yesterday.

296 config files needed updating in various directories.

i did the vital ones myself, then let etc-update do the rest

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 16:58

For those who finally manage to get a working install. Firstly congratulations!

and secondly I point you to the rich and wonderful gentoo documentation resource - Click. Where there more how-to's than you can shake a stick at.

paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 16:58

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[color=red][b]*[/b][/color]ERROR: Problem starting needed services.
[color=red][b]*[/b][/color] "netmount" was not started.

I know my machine uses the e1000 (intel gigabit pro) onboard NIC (lsmod from the live CD told me the module name), and i know that i have chosen it from "make menuconfig", finding it wasnt an issue, however, it still comes up with that error.

Any ideas lads?

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:00

Originally posted by riven
haha, i updated to X.org yesterday.

296 config files needed updating in various directories.

i did the vital ones myself, then let etc-update do the rest

296!

... I now see the benefits of etc-update

I normally do everything maunally including after an emerge baselayout which often gives a few files

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:00

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Originally posted by paradigm

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[color=red][b]*[/b][/color]ERROR: Problem starting needed services. [color=red][b]*[/b][/color] "netmount" was not started.

I know my machine uses the e1000 (intel gigabit pro) onboard NIC (lsmod from the live CD told me the module name), and i know that i have chosen it from "make menuconfig", finding it wasnt an issue, however, it still comes up with that error.

Any ideas lads?

do you only have one NIC? including any onboard and pci.

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:01

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Originally posted by paradigm

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[color=red][b]*[/b][/color]ERROR: Problem starting needed services. [color=red][b]*[/b][/color] "netmount" was not started.

I know my machine uses the e1000 (intel gigabit pro) onboard NIC (lsmod from the live CD told me the module name), and i know that i have chosen it from "make menuconfig", finding it wasnt an issue, however, it still comes up with that error.

Any ideas lads?

Did you configure your network card in /etc/conf.d/net and then add it to the default runllevel by

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rc-update add net.eth0 default

?

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:01

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
296! ... I now see the benefits of etc-update I normally do everything maunally including after an emerge baselayout which often gives a few files

there were onyl a few in /etc the rest were in some X sub directory somewhere.

paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:02

Only the one NIC, yeah. Although the loopback adapter is installed (but that shouldnt pose a problem), and eth over firewire isnt enabled, so my onboard firewire shouldnt be installed as a NIC.

paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:03

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Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
Did you configure your network card in /etc/conf.d/net and then add it to the default runllevel by

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rc-update add net.eth0 default

?

Yeah, simply set up as "dhcp" as all the information should be recieved from the router, EXCEPT i didnt tell it that the router would assign hostname and domainnames.

burns · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:06

I'm still getting the error too, having selected it in menuconfig, done make && make modules modules_install,
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-2.4.26-gentoo-r6
then rebooted.

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:06

Originally posted by paradigm
Yeah, simply set up as "dhcp" as all the information should be recieved from the router, EXCEPT i didnt tell it that the router would assign hostname and domainnames.

Right I think this is where it's failing. Can you confirm that the linux box is picking up the IP from the router?

I'm going to be very noobish here since my knowledgeof setting up DHCP is limited.

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:07

Originally posted by burns
I'm still getting the error too, having selected it in menuconfig, done make && make modules modules_install,
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-2.4.26-gentoo-r6
then rebooted.

it's

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cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-2.6.7-gentoo-r11

It's also a good idea to backup the old kernel since you know it works to some extent.

paradigm · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:07

Well no, ifconfig only shows one active adapter and thats the loopback

Was working fine off the liveCD though

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:08

are you hostnames set up ok?

paradigm did you compile it as a module? because that will need autoloading.

are you connecting to the right network?

linux defaults to 192.168.1.*

windows defaults to 192.168.0.*

Mpemba Effect · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:09

Originally posted by paradigm
Well no, ifconfig only shows one active adapter and thats the loopback

Was working fine off the liveCD though

I know it's a bit of a cop out, but can you not give your linux box a static IP and host / domainnames?

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:10

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
Right I think this is where it's failing. Can you confirm that the linux box is picking up the IP from the router?

I'm going to be very noobish here since my knowledgeof setting up DHCP is limited.

DCHP doesnt need setting up, thats the point of it. You just have to let it know you want to use DCHP and then it should work.

riven · 5 Aug 2004 at 17:10

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
I know it's a bit of a cop out, but can you not give your linux box a static IP and host / domainnames?

thats the best option, and it will boot faster then