Gentoo!

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:46

Try adding the mirror first. Also did you open up any virtual terminals?

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:47

Specs:

Mobo: Asus A7N8X Deluxe, it's an nForce 2
CPU: Barton 2500+
Hard drives are some old Maxtor 4gb that I'm installing on and a new Maxtor 120gb SATA that has Windows on
GPU: Sapphire 9800 Pro
Sound: PCI Soundblaster Live! 5.1
Samsung DVD and Samsung CD-RW...

Need anything else?

EDIT: No virtual terminals, just the one.

EDIT 2: New mirror seems to be working fine, hopefully everything will actually work this time

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:53

uh oh, ati card

remember to compile:
Device Drivers > Character Devices > /dev/agpgart [M]
Device Drivers > Character Devices > nforce2 chipset support [M]

DONT compile the Direct Rendering Manager at all

for the harddrives i think

Device Drivers > ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support > AMD and nVidia IDE support <*>

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:54

Why uh-oh? Uh-oh sounds bad. Damn.

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:57

Originally posted by robmiller
Why uh-oh? Uh-oh sounds bad. Damn.

ati's linux drivers are an absolute pile of <insert expletive here>. They will probably work for you with a pro. But they might be a bit dodgy.

I can get no 3D acceleration with my 9800XT

what modem and/or network card have you got?

which sources where you thinking of using too?

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:58

Onboard 3Com NIC and a Netgear router, both seem to work perfectly at the moment.

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:01

Network

Device Drivers > Networking support > Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) [*]
Device Drivers > Networking support > Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) > 3COM cards [*]

is probably best i bet mpemba is a modules fan though

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:03

Compile all the filesystems you have used into your kernel, along with ntfs if you want to access an XP drive and smbfs if you want to connect to windows network shares.

also there are some bits that MUST be compiled in for gentoo, but it says those in the manual.

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:06

Originally posted by riven
Network

Device Drivers > Networking support > Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) [*]
Device Drivers > Networking support > Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit) > 3COM cards [*]

is probably best i bet mpemba is a modules fan though

Modules fan? Me?

Code:

$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
fglrx                 208260  - 
$

I think not, compile everything into the kernel

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:09

Code:
Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
Modules fan? Me?

Code:

$ lsmod Module Size Used by fglrx 208260 - $

I think not, compile everything into the kernel

haha, ok then. i have most of my device drivers as modules (apart from modem) because i want to try and get software suspend to ram/disk working at some point, and this often needs them reloading from what ive read. also on boot it doesnt update my modules unless they have changed, so it doesnt slow me down much.

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:14

I will do that when I get there

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:16

So what's the difference between modules and compiling in then? I take it modules are slower as they have to be loaded each time the kernel boots?

What are the advantages of them then?

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:21

Originally posted by robmiller
So what's the difference between modules and compiling in then? I take it modules are slower as they have to be loaded each time the kernel boots?

What are the advantages of them then?

modules can be loaded at anytime, so they reduce the memory footprint when they are not loaded. they can also be recompiled and reloaded with no fuss.

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:24

The advantage to compiling in is that you don't need to worry about modules and them having to load up during boot it is also faster. The adavantage of modules is that you can make the system very compatible with different hardware since modprobe will load only the relevent modules during boot, the actual kernel asides from the modules will be very small. Adding modules will also not require a kernel recompile, however I can compile a kernel in a few minutes on my p4 so I'm not fussed.

To achieve the same sort of compatibility in a all compiled in kernel will require you to build in all the modules this will leave you with a rather heavy bloated kernel and waste your ram since all the device drivers will be loaded.

The trick is to compile into the kernel only the drivers you use and nothing else.

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:26

Righto, so it'll be a kernel recompile if I get new hardware?

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:31

Originally posted by robmiller
Righto, so it'll be a kernel recompile if I get new hardware?

Yes, but it's not as daunting as you make out because you have already configured your kernel. Adding a new device will not require you to go though the whole kernel but just to the relevent device, enable it and then 'make' the kernel. It is acutally simpler than adding the new device as a module. Its just it takes longer, but this is not an issue with todays fast cpus. If you're installing on a lowly pentium or 486 then definately modules is proberbly the way to go.

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:32

Originally posted by robmiller
Righto, so it'll be a kernel recompile if I get new hardware?

exactly, but if you have modules then you just have to compile the new modules.

but like mpemba says, recompiling doesnt take long anyway.

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:38

Okie doke. The emerging seems to be going fine with this new mirror

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:49

Wewt, timezone set, onto kernel compilation

EDIT: I should be going for gentoo-dev-sources, right?

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 21:52

Yes go for the gentoo-dev-sources for now. You can mess about with different kernels later.

I have quickly configured you a kernel here save it to /tmp for now. Have a go at it yourself, otherwise you can use the one I made as a template. More than likely you'll need to make some adjustments to it. It's for the 2.6.6 kernel so to use it on a 2.6.7 you need to do 'make oldconfig'.