Geolocation testing

malef!c said:
This is not using whois data though, its a bit of a mish mash of databases, scripting and some checking.

Its because most of the places out there use whois that made me look into different ways of looking at geo data.

Cheers
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Trust me... there is no way to do this. The only way is to have immediate access to all ISPs customer data servers cross referenced with their RADIUS...
 
Your IP: 88.107.145.xxx
Your town/city: Sheffield
Chance of being right (%): 94

You sure that's right? I'm at 16,000ft.

Wait, not I'm not. I am in Newcastle though.
 
NathanE said:
Trust me... there is no way to do this. The only way is to have immediate access to all ISPs customer data servers cross referenced with their RADIUS...
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You can't do it with 100% sure, but maybe combined with a traceroute call he could get 70%+ (on the principle that the box before yours on the route is likely to belong to the isp and so have a static IP)?

akakjs
 
NathanE.

Once again I will say the way I am doing it DOES NOT use hostnames or whois lookups.

Once agains thanks to everyone elsefor trying - busy tweaking away now to see if I can improve on the results (can't get much worse!!)

M.
 
akakjs said:
You can't do it with 100% sure, but maybe combined with a traceroute call he could get 70%+ (on the principle that the box before yours on the route is likely to belong to the isp and so have a static IP)?

akakjs
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That will tell you where the ISP is, there's no way of telling where the user is...
The box before yours will be the ISP gateway, and will have nothing to do with your location (maybe for cable customers, though), but for everyone on ADSL, it will just be a random ISP gateway.
 
akakjs said:
You can't do it with 100% sure, but maybe combined with a traceroute call he could get 70%+ (on the principle that the box before yours on the route is likely to belong to the isp and so have a static IP)?

akakjs
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70% ? LOL... This thread has so far had 1 out of like 20... I know how all the theory works behind something like this and I can tell you right now that there is no cut and dried, reliable or even meaningful way to accurately geolocate an IP address. Yes you can geolocate to the ISP probably with 98% accuracy but to the actual customers city/town? That is more like 0-5%. With the ones that you can match always being due to the hostname containing some tell-tale information, like the cable exchange... or a university domain etc.

This is also why the police have to find out the ISP and then phone their abuse department to get the persons home address from that IP address...
 
Your IP: 88.106.253.10
Your town/city: London
Chance of being right (%): 75
More accurate Chance of being right (%): 1

Way off, just showing where the ISP is. Anyone who thinks you can accurately (not by luck, i.e the person living in the same city as the ISP) get any more than 5-10% correct has been watching too much 24 :p
 
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Markus123 said:
get any more than 5-10% correct has been watching too much 24 :p
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How can you even get that close? :confused:
From an IP address, you can not even get 1% certainty on someone's location (for ADSL/dial-up users, obviously excluding data centres/universities/ISPs). All you can do with any accuracy is narrow it down to country. Can someone explain how it's possible to get anything more than the location of the ISP? :confused:
 
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