German kitchen pricing

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I guess only you can decide if it is your forever home go for it assuming you can afford it and it will make you happy!
 
We really need to know details of whats included in that 33k to know if/how expensive it is. I think we spent around £13k on ours and it's not hugely big or high end (from an appliances point of view)
 
We have German kitchen and love it!

We ended up using schmidt and very happy with how it went. 30k is a lot, think we spent 20k with quartz worktops.
 
I think at some point one of the proponents of this 'amazing German quality' kitchen is going to need to give us all something by way of example that would justify this difference in price.

In my experience there is very little on this planet that is more exaggerated than German manufacturing excellence...Christ the Germans really see us coming these days...they apparently make great Shampoo too now LOL.

Face it - if you'll only pay a fraction of the cost of a product manufactured in another country then how could anyone else expect to compete? You get what you pay for wherever it's made and it was really just German cars that gave the Germans this fabulously reliable reputation...I suggest we look at the reliability surveys to decide whether that reputation is still justified.
 
My mum used to work for a kitchen company that sold German and Italian kitchens. 20 years ago they were head and shoulders above the flat-pack offerings from MFI.
19mm glued and dowelled pre-built carcasses, with high density chipboard, with legs already attached, self closing draws with all metal runners, soft close hinges, carousels etc etc. 20 years on and there are plenty of UK manufacturers building quality carcasses. Yes German kitchens are still well very well built but I think that the gap has narrowed considerably.
 
33k sounds very very expensive for a kitchen, we'd need to know the spec of it really.

Does that include stripping the room back and re-plastering, new flooring and new lighting etc? Unless you're fitting out either a commercial kitchen or something huge it sounds very expensive.
 
33k is not expensive for a kitchen, I think my one was the best part of £80k but £33k for a Leicht is expensive.

You can get good discounts, also look online for ex display kitchens
https://www.usedkitchenexchange.co.uk/product-category/kitchens-for-sale/
https://www.theusedkitchencompany.c...BZDDn1Ao7TXZgVM5peuGXR23GJzLpFnxoCEckQAvD_BwE

I would suggest the contract range from Simatic, also you can put hard for discounts. The shop has about 110% mark up on units
worktops the shop will be 50 to 100% more expensive than finding a local stone guy

appliances, you could try ebay.
 
God I wish I lived in this rich London bubble where 33k was "not expensive for a kitchen" .

I'll be in market for a modest kitchen myself next month and I've become aware of this German kitchen obsession. I'm really struggling to understand what they offer that every other good kitchen company in the UK doesn't.

It's quite bonkers. I can see value in appliances, taps and work tops but I can't fathom how a wooden carcass could ever run about £1k each (which I assume is ballpark figure for some of these 70k kitchens mentioned).

A premade 18mm carcass from Wren or DIY kitchens etc can't be far off what the Germans offer. Its got to be diminishing returns.
 
You can get a hand made, bespoke hardwood kitchen, for £30k and in most peoples books that is big wedge of cash. If you think about £80k for a kitchen - even if you assume £20k in materials, £60k in labour, even at cabinet maker rates of £50 an hour that is 1200 hours or approximately 7 man months of labour. That is pure nonsense. 2 of my friends have bespoke hand made kitchens, even starting from scratch they were done and dusted in under 2 months and that was one guy on his own making and fitting them.

What you are paying for with German Kitchens is styling mainly. Waterfall edges on worktops, unusual door fascias, recessed handle-less design vs J-Handles, slightly better engineered draw runners and hinges. They are better quality in general than DIY-kitchens / Wren etc but not by the margins that they used to be (think back to MFI kitchens). Often you will also get more bespoke options to deal with awkward spaces / shapes.

I think it is all down to what you perceive as value. Friends just had Wren fit them a kitchen (including removing a stud wall and minor electrical) and paid around £27k. They were happy with that and thought it was good value. My kitchen from DIY Kitchens project managed and designed by myself came in at £10k. Yes I am fitting mine, but am happy to do it.
 
The UK average is 19k I think so 33k is hArdly obscene especially if it is a large space with high end white goods and some swanky features!
 
For £33k i could get an extension built and a kitchen fitted in it! That sounds expensive to me. I think Mr Moneybags above needs to get a bit of perspective...£80k can get you a house in some areas!

In most people's books, £33k is a good few years of disposable income to save/pay off.

I think our kitchen was around £4/£5k from DIY kitchens. Don't have a fitting figure, but to put it into perspective, we had the house gutted, rewired, new heating, walls knocked through, new doors and some windows, kitchen, bathrooms, downstairs toilet, boarded, skimmed througgout etc etc all done for not much more than £33k!
 
My grandads house is up for sale in my area for 22k. 80k is insane for a kitchen.

My parents have just knocked down the whole side of their house and built an extension with open plan for a fraction of that.
 
I have just built a 30m2 extension on my house, aluminium bi-folds, ultra high performance glazing, new kitchen, Bosch appliances, wiring, all building inclusing 6m RSJ, plumbing, plastering and it came in nowhere near 80k. Yes I PM'd it myself and have shopped carefully, but I now have a 50m2 kitchen, dining and living area for probably 2/3 of that budget.
 
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