Gerrard...

Pigeon_Killer · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:51

mmj_uk said:
he's just another overpayed footballer with a huge ego.

Or another human that simply snapped after being spoken to like ****.

dokko · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:55

Hopefully he'll go to prison for his cowardly act; very much doubt it though. Anyone else would be seeing bars with an assault that vicious.

Pigeon_Killer · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:57

dokko said:
Hopefully he'll go to prison for his cowardly act; very much doubt it though. Anyone else would be seeing bars with an assault that vicious.

Please get a clue :rolleyes:

dokko · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:58

Pigeon_Killer said:
Please get a clue

Ironic.

Monkey Puzzle · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:59

Pigeon_Killer said:
Or another human that simply snapped after being spoken to like ****.

So not self-defence then?

dokko · 23 Jul 2009 at 16:59

Pigeon_Killer said:
The DJ sounds like a right **** although that's obviously how the defence want him to appear. It's quite the opposite of him running over and battering him for no reason as dm has stated happened time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

Whatever the outcome if he did act like that he deserved a smack for acting like a **** just not the beating Gerrard's friends are meant to have given him afterwards.

You should be hit for talking so much crap tbh.

Pigeon_Killer · 23 Jul 2009 at 17:01

Monkey Puzzle said:
So not self-defence then?

As I've said before it's for the jury to decide based on all the facts.

Personally, I wouldn't call it self defence looking at the video or reading the statements but then that's all I'm going by.

Monkey Puzzle · 23 Jul 2009 at 17:30

Pigeon_Killer said:
As I've said before it's for the jury to decide based on all the facts.

Personally, I wouldn't call it self defence looking at the video or reading the statements but then that's all I'm going by.

Fair enough - pretty much how I see it going on reporting of what has been said in court and the CCTV footage.

BaZ87 · 23 Jul 2009 at 17:41

dokko said:
Hopefully he'll go to prison for his cowardly act; very much doubt it though. Anyone else would be seeing bars with an assault that vicious.

dokko said:
You should be hit for talking so much crap tbh.

Tummy · 23 Jul 2009 at 17:49

Conversation > Gerrard walks away > Gerrard returns > another conversation > Gerrards friend elbows him, Gerrard repeatedly punches him > man is then beaten up by Gerrards friends.

I don't understand all the fuss, the man doesn't look aggressive in the video. However we can't hear what was said, and it's all "he said this" "he said that"

My opinion, is that Gerrard didn't get what he wanted, asked again and when he didn't get what he wanted the second time, and probably getting the "just because your famous" line from the guy, him and his friends attacked him.

My opinion

feel free to disagree.

Gerrard is the captain of Liverpool FC, a club with a massive following, and he's going through court in Liverpool. You'd like to think justice will prevail.

I don't know. I don't think Gerrard should get any special treatment or be treated any harsher then a "normal" court case and ruling of this type. However, being the Liverpool captain, in Liverpool courts

dokko · 23 Jul 2009 at 17:51

BaZ87 said:
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Well in Pigeon_Killer's world its ok to go around punching people if you don't like what they are saying.

I'm sure he won't mind getting sparked out if i or anyone else dooesn't agree with him.

Yas786 · 23 Jul 2009 at 17:55

Tummy said:
Gerrard is the captain of Liverpool FC, a club with a massive following, and he's going through court in Liverpool. You'd like to think justice will prevail.

I don't know. I don't think Gerrard should get any special treatment or be treated any harsher then a "normal" court case and ruling of this type. However, being the Liverpool captain, in Liverpool courts

Personally if he does get off this charge with a rubbish punishment then id like to see him have the captaincy taken away from him...as i dont think someone like him can be considered a role model to millions of youngsters out there. Also drop him for the England side...sure England might suffer from not having him in the side but means that someone else can step up and take his place.

But i wont hold my breath for any of those things to happen tbqh.

Bubo · 23 Jul 2009 at 18:25

Pigeon_Killer said:
Or another human that simply snapped after being spoken to like ****.

As opposed to another human that would simply walk away safe in the knowledge that what someone else in a club thinks means bugger all to you.

elroberto · 23 Jul 2009 at 18:40

If I'd have been asked to put on 'Groovy kind of love' I'd have probably told him to **** off as well. Whatever happens he'll be getting some new songs about it next season. Bet Pete Boyle is already busy!

Pigeon_Killer · 23 Jul 2009 at 19:32

dokko said:
Well in Pigeon_Killer's world its ok to go around punching people if you don't like what they are saying.

I'm sure he won't mind getting sparked out if i or anyone else dooesn't agree with him.

There's a massive difference between having a disagreement and being mouthy to someone who's drunk. You do that you're asking for it as far as I'm concerned.

Just in case you think I'm a thug that goes around hitting people I don't. Nor do I mouth off to people when I'm drunk

Spawn said:
Personally if he does get off this charge with a rubbish punishment then id like to see him have the captaincy taken away from him...as i dont think someone like him can be considered a role model to millions of youngsters out there.

What would you consider an adequate punishment for someone that hasn't been in trouble since they were 19, does a lot of community work and is generally thought of in high regard?

A lot of people seem to be seeking the same type of punishment as a person that goes around doing this sort of thing daily and has a prison cell as his second home.

Spawn said:
Also drop him for the England side...sure England might suffer from not having him in the side but means that someone else can step up and take his place.

You mean like Ferdinand, Terry, Cole and god knows how many other England players have been dropped in the past?

Breeze · 23 Jul 2009 at 19:42

I would be happy for Gerrard to be dropped from the England team. In fact he should just retire from International duties.

Yas786 · 23 Jul 2009 at 19:56

Pigeon_Killer said:
What would you consider an adequate punishment for someone that hasn't been in trouble since they were 19, does a lot of community work and is generally thought of in high regard?

A lot of people seem to be seeking the same type of punishment as a person that goes around doing this sort of thing daily and has a prison cell as his second home.

You mean like Ferdinand, Terry, Cole and god knows how many other England players have been dropped in the past?

Adequate??..dont know really...whatever the going punishment for someone, who isnt a footballer or well known person would get in real life i suppose.

Yes strip him of his captaincy and drop him from England...i wouldnt class him as a role model anymore...more like a thug, who from what i have seen of the CCTV...lashed out because he couldnt get his way.

Shamikebab · 23 Jul 2009 at 19:59

Pigeon_Killer said:
Just in case you think I'm a thug that goes around hitting people I don't.

no, you just condone it.

guyfawkes5 · 23 Jul 2009 at 20:00

Pigeon_Killer said:
There's a massive difference between having a disagreement and being mouthy to someone who's drunk. You do that you're asking for it as far as I'm concerned.

Just in case you think I'm a thug that goes around hitting people I don't. Nor do I mouth off to people when I'm drunk

Just a person who thinks drunken brawls are justified if one person is a **** in the opinion of the other person (and is there ever really a fight where that isn't the case?).

Fully star out any swearing

markweatherill · 23 Jul 2009 at 20:00

That nightclub looks a bit rough. A real dive bar.