Getting a decent Master box for ADSL

That would be great :-) I have ordered a new junction box to my work (they were nice enough to send it in a plain envelope, where as the sellers of the XTE-2005 were not :-( )... so I'll experiment with removing having a new junction box, and also with moving the socket to hook directly to the drop cable.

I highly suspect better results will come from removing two joins creating by the junction box, as you have said all along EVH. (So let's at least put it to the test!)

BTW: Stats at present -

Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 0 days, 22:49:58
Downstream 1,440 Kbps
Upstream 448 Kbps
ADSL settings VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 11.9 dB / 11.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 63.5 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 16.2 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 10952 / 97
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 57 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 77
Error Seconds (Local) 45

Seems an awfully high upward error rate.
 
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To me that says try to run the test of the end of the drop wire and if still errors call openreach, failing that get a camera and film your internal wiring so I can tell you waht I would do :P
 
Can you get a LLU connection?

Those stats look good for another 1Mb at least I'd say.
 
Unfortunately Shaugh Prior exchange doesnt have LLU yet.

Think I will try the drop wire test next time the good wife is out.

Restarted router. The up errors are not reseting. so i think i can discount that figure at present.
 
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To me that says try to run the test of the end of the drop wire and if still errors call openreach, failing that get a camera and film your internal wiring so I can tell you waht I would do :P
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I'm going to try replacing the junction box first (I've got one coming), as when the dog ripped the old phone line off the wall, I didn't have the correct tool, so it possible I have ruined the IDC terminals and not getting a decent connection. I will purely out of curiousity try the drop wire thing though, and if it's a vast improvement, will leave it there. (I have now borrowed a krone tool from a collegue so I will get it spot on this time).

I may even be nice and when I eventually leave the house, leave the router wiring in place to make it easy for the next folk :-)
 
New junction box turned up today, so will be giving that a whirl first :-) (Yes I know I should just move the master socket, but it will be odd running wires across the door).

Annoying that there is no provision on the home hub v2 to mount it on the wall, because then I would do that immediately.
 
So.. I now have a new junction box and a filtered faceplate (thank you to EVH for this!) Just got to fit the darn things now. Faceplate should be easy and quick, just the junction box the good lady of the house is having issues with me replacing lol.

Chiefly, the faceplate allows me to use another router without being forced to using a splitter for the phone line. (Previously the BT Home Hub allowed me to take unsplit line and have the phone attached to the home hub, but I didn't want that as if the router dies, so will the phone line).

Update: I have put the filtered faceplate on... and the sync speed dropped to 1056, so I assume it's just the exchange thinking the line had issues. I'll give it a few days.. although I am gonna try and be quiet tonight and replace the junction box if the wife is asleep ;-)
 
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Had a look at the master socket. Unfortunately, I have to use a junction box, as the BT box has IDC terminals on it rather than screw down terminals :-( damn.

Put the new junction box on the wall... and attenuation has not changed etiher. double damn.

ok... will try the DG834G then I guess... (as I picked up a network cable coupler so I don't need this as a switch anymore.)

Now connected with my DG834G. Will play with the settings over time. Looked at the speedtest.net and my ping has reduced from 45 to 35, that may be due to removing the switch though.
 
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OK.. so...

Adjusted my SNR percentage in the DGTeam firmware to 10%. Yes ten percent. ROFL.

I can only assume it will be about as stable as a one legged stool now... but for the moment I sync speed has raised to 1760 and SNR is currently at 6.7dB .. so hopefully I can get a connection of 1500K and the BRAS profile might raise in a few days.

Getting a fair few 'corrected' errors after a few minutes. But nothing major wrong other than that it seems?

Noise Margin: 6.8 dB
Connection Rate: 1760 Kbps
Line Attenuation: 63.5 dB
Power: 16.3 dBm
Max Rate: 1920 Kbps

SuperFrames: 21947
SF (CRC) Errors: 0
Reed Solomon: 373106
RS Corrected: 899
RS Un-Corrected: 0
HEC: 0
Errored Seconds: 0
Severe ES: 0
Interleave Depth: 4
Bitswaps: 0
 
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Get an IDC punchdown tool, or just get an older master box off eBay.

That IDC master is one of the newest boxes, I think introduced in 2010. The older ones have screw terminals so if you could get one of them it'd be a straight swap :)
 
EVH.. I have borrowed an IDC punchdown tool already :-) That's what I used to test the new junction box.

I see.. Hmm.. I'll have to try and get an older box then!
 
I did have an old socket you could've had, but I threw it out :(

Should only be £5/6 on eBay or free if you know any Openreach engineers.
 
I will have a search online for a pre-2010 bt box :-)

The faceplate you sent me helped out regardless of this prob, as it allows me to spilt the connections off immediately :-)
 
Not had a chance to look for a pre-2010 NTE5 box yet, but on the plus side, my IP (BRAS) profile has finally changed to 1500K :-)

God bless SNR tweaks! (even if I am getting errors). Will have to somehow workout if the error/receive rate is worth the extra though.

Also wondering if I should attempt a resync tonight... but not keen to lose my 1500k profile lol.
 
Surprised BT just didn't replace cable from pole to master socket in the beginning. And you didn't demand complete new cable was done at first engineer visit, as a month later you're still stuck with a poor connection.
 
I wasn't at the house for the visits :-(

EDIT: Having the entire drop cable replaced when it was suspected BT's internal wiring is a bit excessive. I might go and check my neighbours attenuation though :-)
 
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Found out tonight that the neighbour getting 1.4meg had had a guy from Pipex come round and fiddle with some settings via his laptop, where as previously he'd only been getting 1.2meg. Catch people on a different day, you get a different story lol. Probably adjusted the SNR or similar in that case.

Anyway.. I'm getting almost 1.5meg download speeds now, with no loss of signal, no apparent packet loss, although I do see a lot of CRC errors and corrected RS's.

Thank you for all the tips, and a massive thanks to EVH for the face plate!
 
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