"Getting the back end out"

Powerslide fwd wet roundabout? :D


I don't think it was Hartge no, I will backtrack my youtube favs and post the video later!
 
Go to a drift day and learn how to handle your car in a slide

Many people panic too easily with opposite lock and using the power to steer the car

As already said practicing on the roads is not wise

Clutch kick will get your back end out but in such a short car you will probably spin / crash straight away until you learn to control it

Left foot brake is going to do it too but again without experience you'll end up with your teeth in your steering wheel

I can give you drift lessons if you're ever in Somerset
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
If you can't get a RWD car to drift even around a roundabout in the wet then you fail at driving. I'm by no means an amazing driver and I'm not claiming to be, but even I've managed a power slide in a front wheel drive car, in the wet, around a roundabout.
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power slide in a fwd I'd love to know how that works. Are you sure your not referring to lift off oversteer?
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
If you can't get a RWD car to drift even around a roundabout in the wet then you fail at driving. I'm by no means an amazing driver and I'm not claiming to be, but even I've managed a power slide in a front wheel drive car, in the wet, around a roundabout.
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Fair enough, I fail at driving (shrug). To be honest, I've never been to a track where I can drive moronically enough to get this kind of thing to happen, and I'm not a boy racer by nature.

If I know what I have to do to make the back end come out, then I know what not to do to avoid a sideways incident and a phonecall to the insurers. Plus if you roll an MX5 you end up with no head.
 
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Sorry power slide is the wrong term to use I suppose. More of a controlled slide. Very sorry! :o

Although it's not exactly difficult in a RWD car. You turn in, give a quick and sharp kick of throttle and counter steer to keep it going. You level out when you want to start back in a straight line. Although the public roads aren't really the place to be trying things like that.

EvilDreams said:
Fair enough, I fail at driving (shrug). To be honest, I've never been to a track where I can drive moronically enough to get this kind of thing to happen, and I'm not a boy racer by nature.

If I know what I have to do to make the back end come out, then I know what not to do to avoid a sideways incident and a phonecall to the insurers. Plus if you roll an MX5 you end up with no head.
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You should try a track day. :)
 
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Get a MK2 Escort, it will become second nature!

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Skillzzz :cool:
 
Doing this on a public road is dangerous behond belief! Pay for a days driver training on an empty airfield :P Camber/road imperfections/drains etc will ensure you end up around a lamppost at best this time of year.
 
It's one of those things that is so much easier to have a go at than have explained to you because it's mostly about feel. I've driven a lot of RWD cars, many of them underpowered, and the only one I found difficult to slide was Kaiowas' MR2 Sprint car and that's because it wasn't mine and I didn't want to take the mick with the clutch brutality and so on.

One of the nicest cars to slide was Freefaller's MX-5, very very controllable. Kate's 200SX was also ridiculously simple to get dancing in the wet (it's much harder in the dry in any car to be honest) - lots of power and a turbocharger are ideal for breaking initial traction.
The Manta is easy to get sliding, harder to hold a slide out as it lacks an LSD and about 80bhp.....even my 1.8 Sierra running on 3 cylinders was easy to get sliding, never had an issue with my Volvo 940 either.

Doing it from a standstill is the safest way of getting started I think, although it can be quite un-dramatic (lots of wheelspin and not much drifting) if the road, er track, doesn't have any sort of camber as a lack of LSD means you are more reliant on weight transfer which you can't use much of from a standing start.

My personal favourite is a nice wide stretch of track, drive down it at about 40, handbrake turn and get straight on the gas when you are at about 180 degrees, then keep the power on and fishtail out facing the other way. Don't do this on the road though. Ever :D
 
[TW]Fox;15302487 said:
The reason its hard in yours is because it's massively overtyred (Most BMW's are) really, although the lack of power doesn't help.
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I'd say it's a power problem mostly for him.

I could happily kick the rear out on the e36, come up to a corner too fast, dump a gear, turn in, hard, power on, correct steering. :)

Done it on 90's on on 180 corners too. :p

The e36 though is well designed for it, it's smooth, progressive and easy to sort. :)

Lopéz said:
Don't do this on the road though. Ever :D
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Nobody would ever do that in a 200SX...;) :p
 
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Thomas. PLease. said:
power slide in a fwd I'd love to know how that works. Are you sure your not referring to lift off oversteer?
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having been driven round rockingham by matt neil i can happily report a Front wheel drive car can perform a manouvre exactly like a power slide.

You do use lift off oversteer to unsettle the car, then use the power to get it to go round the corner at an off angle.

Looks and feels exactly like a powerslide, just you have to invoke it a different way.
 
Easiest way is to go find a empty industrial estate on a Sunday night with some open corners in a car park or even a round about that's dead. If you find the back end aint stepping out when you jump on the power.. Go at the corner slowly and turn into the corner, Give the clutch a kick and give it alittle more gas at the same time(letting the revs climb abit before letting the clutch back out) and the wheels should spin up getting you sideways but slowly. Keep trying until you can get it sideways all the time. Not sure on what LSD is on the uk 1.8 but it may not be helping.
 
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