Gigabyte AORUS AM4 info breakdown

PWM implementation is poor on the Gigabyte AX370-GAMING 5 it seems - having to use a fan over them to reduce the risk of fire while overclocking lol, also no BCLK overclocking, only on the K7.

Does the AX370-Gaming K7 use the exact same PWM's? :o

Good review here >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?293130-Ryzen-Return-of-the-Jedi

4.2Ghz on a 1700!!! matches OC for x1800 with most boards only hitting 4.1 GHz!!!!!!!

hopefully BIOS update sover time for all vendors will help with motherboards in general. And this is why a Gaming 8 is needed!!!!
i wouldnt be surprised as Ryzen gains tracking mobos will have water blocks on them, and EKWB to roll of CPU/VRM blocks
 
Decided to go with gigabyte, oddly enough my last gigabyte was my last amd build, went with the higher priced 7 over the 5 as I did not like the white bits on the 5, sad I know but what can you do
 
I just updated a post of mine in the CPU section with this, but this thread seems more relevant:

Gigabyte just replied to a comment I made on FarceBook, they're saying 2 weeks for the K7 should anyone be interested.
 
https://youtu.be/RVcIss7m5SM?t=478

Pause where it loads up, in regards to the xtreme sys review complaints about the heatsinks. I've been saying it for a month when seeing these motherboards, the heatsink design is all about the look, nothing about cooling. These Asus ones have a heatpipe in... but almost zero surface area when compared to the kinds of sinks that used to be on a vrm, any old standard heatsink with multiple fins for air to actually pass through the heatsink. Even with a downwards blowing Wraith Spire cooler, the air hits the board then hits the VRM heatsink and... can't go through it, because it's a solid freaking block?

The heatsinks and this weird new i/o shroud sticking over the main VRM heatsink which actually makes airflow even worse and it's mostly blocking off one side of the heat.. sink seems unfair, heatlumpofmetaldoingnotmuch seems fairer.

Jesus, some of the B350 boards seem to have been better designed, less focus on appearing sleek and heatsinks designed to function as heatsinks.

That said, that MIGHT be enough cooling on the Asus board, the more efficient your mosfets, the less they heat up at any given power level being delivered and they also have a high rating even at 125c, however, there is zero doubt that they could still be cooled better by a 'normal' heatsink design.

I was going to buy a 1700 and A board after a few weeks and narrowing down which one is any good, at this point if I buy it's because I'll be buying the board that sucks THE LEAST. These boards lack basic things like quality cooling and instead throw pointless software, fancy lights and... dual audio codecs which on the Gigabyte seems to mean, you get one for the rear panel and one for the front panel.... when every other board I've ever used just uses the same chip for both ports? Then you have the MSI with the M.2 heatshield---- which actively increases the temp of the bottom side of the m.2 drives. What has happened to motherboard production in the last 2 years at the high end?
 
PWM implementation is poor on the Gigabyte AX370-GAMING 5 it seems - having to use a fan over them to reduce the risk of fire while overclocking lol, also no BCLK overclocking, only on the K7.

Does the AX370-Gaming K7 use the exact same PWM's? :o

Good review here >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?293130-Ryzen-Return-of-the-Jedi


I just came back to see that review again and realised it missed some fairly vital information. If you read much further down the thread he says he doesn't recommend the Gaming 5 for a 95W chip, and only borderline okay for a 65W chip because it's inadequate. Except he says he overclocked to 4.2Ghz and failed entirely to mention anything about why the VRM's are inadequate. Like for instance without the fan the VRMs were running at 120c and I couldn't overclock past 3.9Ghz, then he puts a fan on and it ran at 4.2Ghz but the temps were only down to 105c with the fan, that kind of thing.

He just broadly says the VRMs suck with no quantifying of that opinion at all. Actually I went and read multiple more pages, he eventually says that a 65W chip gets the pwm hot to the touch, I presume he means the heatsinks, and that the 95W chip get hot enough to burn you. Hyperbolic or true, either way, neither is accurate nor informative. The mosfets on the Crosshair are rated at 40amps @ 125c operating temp, it doesn't mean they will operate at that temp, with 8 of them and with them apparently being super efficient then the heatsinks shouldn't get hot. But the temp of the heatsink to the touch(without a real measurement) and the temp of the mosfet doesn't matter, what matters is what are the mosfets rated for, what temp can they provide that at, what temp will their lifespan shorten to an amount that actually matters.

If the mosfets are rated to provide say, 80amps at 140c, then who cares if they get hot to the touch. Yes a good heatsink and keeping temps as low as possible is always better. I've been trying to find specs of all the boards precisely because I hated the heatsink design and was worried about buying something under specced or with inadequate cooling for what they've used. A review which just says the pwm(which isn't even the part that gets hot) is bad because it's warm is ridiculous along with his "this board is unsuitable for a 95W chip" while overclocking 95 and 65W chips beyond 95W just fine.

I have no idea how consumers accept the "10+4" or just 6 phase power like that means anything. If the 6 phases are higher specced than the 10+4 then you want the 6 phase board. How they get away with saying hey, this board is fancy and expensive but look it had 10+4 phase power, when that 10+4 phase can be cheaper and worse quality, I really don't know. Also if they published this simple info, a amp rating for the mosfets at the very least, then people can judge the boards and also we'd get better motherboards. Because currently you can use 12 of the worst quality mosfets but appear higher quality than 6 great mosfets purely by the numbers. If mobo makers were held accountable those trying cheap tricks to appear better would fail and everyone would up their game a little.
 
Two weeks wait for the K7. I can't wait that long.

Two competitors have an expected date of 10th March for this board which is tomorrow.
 
I saw another site expecting k7's tomorrow and told by ocuk a gigabyte delivery was due Friday so fingers crossed
I really hope it's tomorrow. I have a whole system on order and the wait is just on the motherboard.

The Asrock's due date was listed as 8th March but when the day came it said Due today, then the next day it changed to 10th March.
 
Spoke to a member of staff at competitor and was told they're expecting some Gaming K7 boards today but very limited in quantity. Name rhymes with swam.
 
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