Given stick for working extra hours?

I give all my IT staff the option of working out of hours without any prior authorisation (mainly rdp'ing in from home) and paying them 1.5 time for anything they want to do (or 2x if its client work) ..... they never do it!!!
 
Health and Safety reasons is why he kicked off @ OP

An example being, our security at work is contracted to G4S, the security staff are sound but their policies are shocking.

An example....

At one of the smallest sites we have there was 1 security guard on duty over night as the office is entirely shut up. They have to every hour wander around the building scanning RFID tabs all over the building and report in each hour.

One night... 3 hours had passed with no-one reporting in before G4S though this was "Odd". They sent someone on site to find the security guard dead for 2-3 hours from a massive heart attack. (Needless to say they have 2 people on night shift on that site now to match the other sites)

Same thing can happen to workers if they don't know you are on site and you die... only to be found hours later!
 
Are you an IT contractor? If so, I can fully appreciate your boss being ****ed if you're making unauthorised changes to a system without any prior warning to the business.

Nobody wants to walk in to somebody else's ****-up after a weekend.
 
Are you an IT contractor? If so, I can fully appreciate your boss being ****ed if you're making unauthorised changes to a system without any prior warning to the business.

Nobody wants to walk in to somebody else's ****-up after a weekend.

Try reading the thread, numbnuts...
 
Lone working is an issue. Should something happen whilst you are at work, then your boss is liable for prosecution by Health & Safety Executive. Your boss has a Duty of Care to his/her employees including the amount of hours you work and lone working. Should you break these rules, your boss is most likely to be prosecuted and also you could lose your job as a breach of HSE regulations.

Lone working can be achieved if the company has a policy and risk assessment/practice of work for it. That is, you should explain that you wish to work out of office hours and a sort of agreement would be discussed. Usually, you agree to specify how long you plan to be at work and at what times. Also, contact your boss to say that you have finished.

Finally, since you are sub-contracted, you may have to be supervised, as the rules and regulations are applicable to people contracted to do work for you.

Looks like a lot of red tape, but the basics are that as a manager/CEO/etc, you are responsible for the safety of all who enter/use/work your building facilities. So I totally agree with your boss, but, communicate with him/her about your intentions first. Also electricity kills, so please don't poke your penis in a socket, supervised or not. And that includes paper shredders, photocopier, DVD-ROM tray, USB slots and water dispenser - because that's just perverse. Use the boss's desk instead!
Im lone working 5000 miles away from the office right now and i havent electrocuted my penis yet... Different plug sockets i grant you..
 
un-realististic time limits, can't base time limits on your best and highest paid. oh i know lets give them bonuses, ahh nah that does'nt work, you just lose more hair.
 
Sounds like a typical manager type, something I've decided it the problem with nearly all businesses/companies, everyone is being managed, no body is leading!
 
Health and Safety reasons is why he kicked off @ OP

An example being, our security at work is contracted to G4S, the security staff are sound but their policies are shocking.

An example....

At one of the smallest sites we have there was 1 security guard on duty over night as the office is entirely shut up. They have to every hour wander around the building scanning RFID tabs all over the building and report in each hour.

One night... 3 hours had passed with no-one reporting in before G4S though this was "Odd". They sent someone on site to find the security guard dead for 2-3 hours from a massive heart attack. (Needless to say they have 2 people on night shift on that site now to match the other sites)

Same thing can happen to workers if they don't know you are on site and you die... only to be found hours later!

Expect he has no basis to kick off on H&S grounds as the workplace is set up for people to come and go as they please with a constant manned presence.
Which is totally different to lone one man guarding.
 
Can't believe people's bosses have a go at them for working overtime for free to get a job done.

God, when I worked in the private sector, had I told my boss that I wanted to come into the office at the weekend and do more work, but not to worry as I will be working for free, he would have smiled from ear to ear and been more than happy for this to happen!
 
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Anyway, my boss got whiff of this and has had a huge moan about it, saying he could have got in serious trouble if there had been an issue.
I bend over backwards for this company and today was the straw that broke my back. I understand I should have told him, but at the same time. Why bother going to these extremes when it's not even appreciated?.

Charming!! You're helping them out and that's the thanks you get?
Me? I'm not going into the deeper details but the Co-op I work in owe me a couple:-
1. Having the decency to do an extra hour to help out
2. Having the decency to help out by donating a couple of free UV pens for shop use (I told the manager straight that I want something back)


^^^
The above proves my point about working in a supermarket-give the bosses an inch and they take a thousand miles
 
1. You're not an employee, you're a contractor. If you had workmen in to fix something in the week, and they let themselves into your house over the weekend to finish off, without telling you, what would your reaction be?

2. If you do work "off-line", then it makes it much harder to plan and estimate - if your company is not billing for it, that means that you completed all the work you were supposed to do taking x amount of time/money, but it actually cost y. The next time your company is asked to do something x big, they'll expect it to cost x, not y. So you're shooting yourself in the foot there and making it MUCH harder to plan both companies future work.

3. You're not an employee. Stop thinking like one. "I bend over backwards for this company". The only company you work for is your own. You are effectively saying that you bend over backwards for yourself. "I've not asked to be paid for it", you mean that your company did not to bill for it. You can, of course, get your company to pay you for the extra work you did.
 
I laugh about this kind of thing a lot, especially when I get told off for working more than 40 hours in a week (regularly) - the French just don't get it.

I came into work of my own accord on Saturday for a few hours to get stuff done that I didn't manage to do during the week.

Anyway, my boss got whiff of this and has had a huge moan about it, saying he could have got in serious trouble if there had been an issue.

I'm a contractor, I've not asked to be paid for it. I simply didn't finish the work during the week.

I bend over backwards for this company and today was the straw that broke my back. I understand I should have told him, but at the same time. Why bother going to these extremes when it's not even appreciated? I could have simply not done the work and left it until today. Which would have caused a lot of grief for a lot of people...

I guess this is a rant, as I understand his position, but at the same time... He's having a moan as he needs to cover his arse.

If the office is open and available for you to work in at the weekend then what's his problem?
His problem is that they can face serious legal repercussions for it. Along with business issues such as billing time, project planning etc.
 
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