God & Science Proved!

ennogs said:
A scientist claims he can prove God exists and the theory of evolution is wrong. He wrote a book called the attempted murder of God.
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And this is exactly why I will never take any scientist who believes in god, or anyone that claims they know scientists who believe in god seriously.

RDM said:
A scientist? Are you sure on that one? :D
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Attempted-Murder-God-Hidden-Science/dp/0956471404

I am not surprised to see that this book was self-published; it's drivel. I suspect it was written by a monkey with a typewriter. Can't the author at least put this on Kindle, so trees and paper aren't wasted.

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Did the person who wrote this book get any GCSEs/OLevels (or equivalent)?

Very poor understanding of science.

One person (the author, quite possibly) has suggested this is a 'parody'. Parodies are funny. This is not.

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The evocative highlighting of the word 'murder' on the cover was my favourite bit as it gave me a clear framework for approaching the words inside.

I read it. It was murder.

Drivel.

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could not read it all, it was so bad. don't bother finding out the hard way... just trust me. please.

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A waste of the time and effort of all involved. To go to the point of publishing a book on this non-subject seems a bit excessive. Particularly when a poorly worded barely legible blog post or an unhinged and demented youtube post usually satisfies most of the audience for such things and is less of a fuss for everyone.
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lolololol.

Oh, wait, even better ...

On the publishers web page for this book, in small print, are the words:

"A satirical parody".

I have not read it.
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That guy who wrote that book is utter trash, he is suing some guy for defamation because some guy wrote an accurate review on Amazon which criticized it.
 
bhavv said:
And this is exactly why I will never take any scientist who believes in god, or anyone that claims they know scientists who believe in god seriously.
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Erm...

Yeah, what an idiot that Isaac Newton fella was. Him believing in God obviously hindered his scientific ability.
 
arctine said:
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Yeah, what an idiot that Isaac Newton fella was. Him believing in God obviously hindered his scientific ability.
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Back then though just about everyone believed in God. You cant compare what any Scientist from such a long time ago believed to what they believe today.
 
I'm reffering to personal beliefs among scientists today, not from way back before DNA was even discovered:

The scientific community is, however, much less religious than the general public. In Pew surveys, 95% of American adults say they believe in some form of deity or higher power.

And the public does not share scientists' certainty about evolution. While 87% of scientists say that life evolved over time due to natural processes, only 32% of the public believes this to be true, according to a different Pew poll earlier this year.

Given that scientists are much less likely than the general public to believe in God, it's not surprising that the percentage who are affiliated with a particular religion is also lower. Nearly half of U.S. scientists say they have no religious affiliation -- describing themselves as atheist, agnostic or nothing in particular -- compared with 17% of all Americans.

Among scientists there are far fewer Protestants (21%) and Catholics (10%) than in the general public, which is 51% Protestant and 24% Catholic. And while evangelical Protestants make up more than a fourth of the general population (28%), they are only a tiny slice (4%) of the scientific community. One notable exception is Jews, who make up a larger proportion of the scientific community (8%) than the general population (2%).
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http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/24/opinion/la-oe-masci24-2009nov24
 
arctine said:
Einstein, Faraday, Kelvin and Planck to name a few more.
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Einstein was Agnostic, him being a Christian is just one of many things that Christians sprout. Source. He just didn't like atheists like Dawkins very much either.

Edit: Same with Planck, apparently. Source. Neither of them seemed particularly against the idea of a god, but neither followed any religion in particular. Which in my opinion is the way to go - be open minded about it. Nothing to say that there is something out there which is bigger than all of us; just that if there is it's very unlikely to be anything that any book we currently have describes.
 
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My point is, bhavv, that this statement:

bhavv said:
And this is exactly why I will never take any scientist who believes in god, or anyone that claims they know scientists who believe in god seriously.
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Is ****ing preposterous. Countless brilliantly minded scientists believe in a God, ranging from Nobel laureates who have changed the way we look at the sorlx to people who make shampoo.

bhavv said:
Also Hitler was a Christian, not an Atheist which is just one of the many things that Christians spout.
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Saying things like this is only emphasising your sheer stupidity btw.
 
arctine said:
Saying things like this is only emphasising your sheer stupidity btw.
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For a time Hitler advocated positive Christianity, a militant, non-denominational form of Christianity which emphasized Christ as an active preacher, organizer, and fighter who opposed the institutionalized Judaism of his day.

Positive Christianity purged or deemphasized the Jewish aspects of Christianity and was infused with aspects of nationalism and racial antisemitism. Hitler never directed his attacks on Jesus himself, whom Hitler regarded as an Aryan opponent of the Jews. Hitler viewed traditional Christianity as a corruption of the original ideas of Jesus by the Apostle Paul.

In Mein Kampf Hitler writes that Jesus "made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross." In a speech 26 June 1934, Hitler stated:

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of to-day.
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shadesofgrey said:
Can and does.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast13apr_1/
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The water would be frozen ice and unable to support life without enough sunlight.
 
[TW]Sponge;21424311 said:
This. I was wondering when another one of 'these' threads would pop up again.
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I was going to say that it was going rather well before bhavv got involved, then I reread it and frankly it was doomed right from the start...
 
bhavv said:
I'm reffering to personal beliefs among scientists today, not from way back before DNA was even discovered:

"In Pew surveys, 95% of American adults say they believe in some form of deity or higher power... Nearly half of U.S. scientists say they have no religious affiliation -- describing themselves as atheist, agnostic or nothing in particular -- compared with 17% of all Americans.


http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/24/opinion/la-oe-masci24-2009nov24
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Now maths might not be my strong suit but 95 + 17 =/= 100. Or are they including kids in the 17% that doesn't believe? ;)
 
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