Going from Creative i-Trigue to Logitech Z-2300 a downgrade?

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Hi all,

I currently own a set of 5.1 Creative i-Trigue speakers:

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Speaker Power
9 Watts RMS per channel (4 channels)
Center Satellite: 15 Watts RMS
24 Watts RMS subwoofer
5.1 design with distinctive curved satellites in black, with silver highlights and bright metal stands. Adds style to any environment
Revolutionary Acoustic Loaded Module projects enhanced upper bass performance for natural, warm tonality
NeoTitanium Tri-Array technology and three high-precision Titanium dome microdrivers per satellite for dynamic, precise sound and wide sound stage. Reinforced wood subwoofer delivers powerful bass
Wired remote with auxiliary connectivity combines comfort and versatile use with different technology platforms
Up-mix feature converts stereo inputs from personal and digital audio players to full 5.1 surround
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I have no use for 5.1 speakers, or the space for them. So I am looking to get a high-end 2.1 or 2.0 set.

I have the following questions:

1) Are speakers like the Z-2300 going to be a downgrade for me or an upgrade (in terms of power, sound quality etc)
2) I want powerful sound that sounds very good. Should I be looking at PC speakers at all, or an amp and speaker set instead

Thanks in advance,
 
I doubt it's going to be a downgrade. I mean, you're going from 74W to 200W. Plus the woofers on the satellites on the Z-2300 speakers are much larger, and likely to produce better midrange (although it's still not likely to be amazing since they're still quite small compared to bookshelf speakers, for example). I think it would be a fairly big upgrade.
 
Pound for pound, are bookshelf speakers and an average amp going to give me better sound than any set of PC speakers I can find?/
 
If you're not going to go Hi-Fi stuff, and want to get decent 2.1 sound, get the Aego M's, stunningly good reviews from just about everywhere when compared to other PC speakers. Give low end hi-fi seperates a run for thier money too.

Higher end hi-fi seperates when combined with a decent quality sound card will provide best quality sound, but as you just want speakers, and dont want to spend a huge amount, Aego M's are your solution :)

If you're willing to hunt around on the bay, an amp from NAD, Arcam or a CA5 and some decent bookshelves from mission, B&W or the Mordaunt Short 902i might be up your street, but Aego's are the best speakers you're likely going to get for a fixed £80 new.


PS. I used to use those i-trigues myself, had them for about 2-3 years, as was given them as a present. Compared to what Im using now, the overall sound quality was poor, my brother's using them happily right now though, as they're not terrible, just poor mid, and I found the bass very flabby. Going to seperates was one of the best things I could have done, less bass but much better overall sound quality.
 
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JimpsEd said:
Hi all,

I currently own a set of 5.1 Creative i-Trigue speakers:

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I have no use for 5.1 speakers, or the space for them. So I am looking to get a high-end 2.1 or 2.0 set.

I have the following questions:

1) Are speakers like the Z-2300 going to be a downgrade for me or an upgrade (in terms of power, sound quality etc)
2) I want powerful sound that sounds very good. Should I be looking at PC speakers at all, or an amp and speaker set instead

Thanks in advance,
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What sound card are you using?
Im asking this because i have those speakers with a x-fi extreme music, and when you spend 10 mins setting it up correctly they sound awsome.

I had the Logitech Z-2300 2.1 and the build quality is excellent, sound quality is good (loads of bass), but wasnt as good as the i-Trigues when set up correctly.

Also the Z-2300 satalites are ugly and big when you have had the creatives.
 
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Mansize_tissue said:
It really depends how much you're willing to spend. I'd say no, if the budget is sub-£100.
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A set of bookshelves and an amp for under £100 would still blow away a £100 set of pc speakers. But as said previously said you would have to root around on 'the bay' for the likes of NAD, arcam, and especially cambridge audio. Speakers like mission, KEF and especially the mordaunt short 902i would be prefect.

Decide on what the majority of your listening will be, music (go for amp+speakers), movies (crapy pc speakers).
 
Majority of listening will 100% be music, via my X-Fi Xtreme Music card.

@Keeny; I am half giving them up because I want better and do not need 5.1 speakers (in fact, cannot use them).
 
Hmmm, if you're going CA I'd recommend the Cambridge A5 over the A1 (A1 distorts etc at much lower volumes etc than the A5) as its a lot stronger. You'd be better looking second hand.

For comparison, just recently someone rated the Aego M's BETTER than a Cambridge A1 and some small Gale bookshelf speakers, so you'd be wanting a better A5 as its a fair bit better in its own right over it's smaller brother, and some nice bookshelves to go with it :) One of the reason's the Aego's are well designed and liked by accounts, is likely as the company that makes them is a fully fledged, high end hi-fi company themselves, unlike Logitech etc which make pc peripherals, so the company have different ethic and standards.

The Eltax amp I dont know much about, but Eltax seem to get very divided opinions compared to some of the more unanimously liked brands. However, looking at some info on the web, it doesnt seem that model is badly regarded as a cheap amp, however it is a cheaper amp so dont expect miracles, but again it'll probably be better than the logi.
The only area bookshelves will lose to a logi set is that they'll have weaker bass, BUT the bass will be more accurate/correct in general, and the overall mid frequencies and sound clarity will be much improved in comparison.

Plugged into an X-Fi, a CA5 and some decent speakers WILL produce a better sound than the logitechs.
 
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Holy ....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sony-CDP-XE57...ryZ39825QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That's a brilliant little set if it stays at the current price and if you can get it for around £30!
Those speakers are rated pretty well on thier own grounds by users, compared to other £100 speakers, and that's a decent amp that usually sells second hand for £60+ on it's own!

And to put the cherry on the top, you get a CD player with it too :)

These should definately give you better sound than some logi's mate!

The auction is collection only, but Im sure you could organise to get them couriered for £20, my mission 751's with very very heavy speaker stands only cost that much with DHL.
A little bit of hassle, but damned if you can get that set for £50 you're set.
 
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Hmm - I have no use for floor standing speakers (I think), but I think £50 is worth it for the amp alone?

Also, why do I need an amp for bookshelfs when PC speakers do not need an amp?
 
With PC speakers, the amp is usually built into one of the speakers, or the sub. Given the size, even for decent power regulation circuitry you can start to see why many of these fall down before you even get to the speakers themselves.
Whereas with Hi-Fi seperates, as the name suggests, each component is seperate, and usually of higher quality than integrated solutions :) You can almost compare it to integrated vs stand alone PC components, where integrated graphics are usually a lot weaker than stand alone, but are supplied on the system board along with other components, rather than thier own dedicated board, so save space, and do the basics.


RE: Floorstander speakers. If you have room for them, decent floorstanders are great. Decent floorstanders tend to have better (deeper/more pronounced) bass reproduction compared to bookshelves due to the larger body cavity, room for larger/more speakers etc.
 
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Just spotted that setup on ebay.

@ Alexrose1uk or anyone else that knows, how much should I be prepared to pay for them.

I live about 20 miles away so could pick them up :D
 
Hmmm, well, providing its all working fine as it says, the A5 amp is worth 50-60 second hand I'd say (£130 new), the Mission 702e dropped to about £100 (originally about £200) new near the end of their production I believe, so perhaps 50-60... then on top of that you've got what looks to be a semi-decent sony cd player... Basically anything under 100 would probably be a bit of a bargain, although someone else might have a more accurate price :)
 
Ok, well I will take the plunge I think! Amp and bookshelf speakers for me it is. Do I need anything other than this to connect my soundcard to an amp?

Cambridge Audio AZUR 540R
 
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