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Going full on streaming

Discussion in 'Home Cinema & Hi-Fi' started by danlightbulb, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. dowie


    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 46,003

    You can freely stream non-BBC stuff where available (4OD etc..) BBC player requires a license fee to be paid though.

    Some (a few) BBC dramas are on Netflix.

    AFAIK none of those channels offers a streaming service.

    no additional fees on Netflix - just chose your subscription level based on mobile devices, SD, or HD etc..

    Amazon does offer additional channels via third party providers that you can pay extra to watch.

    Also Amazon video (separate to Amazon prime streaming service) has newer releases of movies you can rent etc..

    if a smart TV has Netflix app built in then you can watch Netflix...

    likewise ditto to prime, iplayer etc.. (though remember you need a license for iplayer so might as well make use of Freeview/freesat too if you do buy one)

    no, firestick is piece of hardware from amazon that allows a non smart TV to watch amazon prime, Netflix is a streaming service available on multiple devices.

    That depends on what you're comparing it with... if you only have an SD subscription to Netflix then you'll only get SD content... etc..

    Sports etc..? Though amazon has some.
  2. danlightbulb


    Joined: Jul 14, 2005

    Posts: 2,530

    Thanks all. Still a little confused though tbh. Just not sure what I 'need' if I buy a new 4k TV and ditch Virgin.

    I've read that freeview/SD content will look crap on a big 4k tv?

    And I don't want to buy 4k blu-rays at £30 a pop, so where will I get 4k movies from? Netflix premium subscription (£12.99 /month) or do I need firestick 4k?

    I might get a 4k games console when the next gen comes out. Or I could connect my gaming pc, which hardly gets used, to the new TV. Which is best? Or could I screencast my pc to the new TV over wifi?

    And as per my other thread, I'm unsure how to network all this up with my NAS drive/content. If my NAS is connected to my broadband router in a different room, can I stream over wifi to the TV with it?

    How would all of this new stuff integrate (or not) with something like google home or alexa?
  3. dowie


    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 46,003

    Either/both... your TV probably has the ability to play amazon prime without the need for a firestick... as per the answer already given above, the fire stick is more for non-smart TVs that can't already play it. I mean unless the OS in your TV is really annoying/slow etc.. you probs don't need an external device like a stick or games console etc... to watch netflix/amazon.

    Best for what? What are you trying to achieve there? Yes you could connect your PC and watch any movies/content you have stored on it. But as far as watching netflix/amazon.. just watch them on the TV.

    you might be better off posting the hardware questions in the other forum - you'll can some detailed answers there (as well as recommendation for specific TVs to look for given your budget etc..) but essentially yes you can.
  4. danlightbulb


    Joined: Jul 14, 2005

    Posts: 2,530

    At the moment I don't use my gaming pc to anywhere near its full potential. Its got a decent spec, so I'm thinking maybe Id get more use from it if I connected it directly to the new tv. I read about things like media servers. I just don't know what I don't know, if you see what I mean. What am I missing out on?

    I just think all these questions are kinda linked? I could try and split them up across multiple parts of the forum but then end up drifting off topic because of linked issues. Like for example google home. If I get google home, I will want to try and control heating, lights as well as tech. It seems awkward at best, to try and split these topics up when at the moment I have nothing at all.
  5. dowie


    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 46,003

    There is a whole thread dedicated to home automation stuff here btw... might be worth a browse:


    Some of the stuff you're asking is quite wide ranging and some you could find out the answer to yourself - like what is the difference between Netflix and an amazon fire stick.

    You'd perhaps get more detailed/useful answers if you did split up the topic somewhat - for example if you've got a more specific hardware question then a thread in the relevant forum could give you more detail on that than the general questions here. :)
  6. danlightbulb


    Joined: Jul 14, 2005

    Posts: 2,530

    @dowie thanks I'll give that a read. Ive been reading lots of articles etc, and I'm an intelligent guy but this topic has me somewhat stumped to be honest. Despite reading the articles i'm struggling to understand the differences between these devices and where to get the content from without subscribing to multiple services. And its hard to find good quality articles on how to connect all your tech together in the most efficient and futureproofed way.
  7. Psycho Sonny


    Joined: Jun 21, 2006

    Posts: 32,422

    netflix uhd version is £12.99 a month iirc.

    amazon prime is £80 per year. so £7 a month or thereabouts.

    tv license is £160 a year or thereabouts.

    freesat or freeview is okay but ideally you need a recorder to record stuff when you are out or busy. so need to spend money on that too.

    I'm currently paying like £150 a month but i have 350MB with VM. TV licence, sky q full package with bt sport in HD added on, cinema, sports, UHD etc, with sky. then prime as well.

    As soon as celtic get knocked out of europe I'm going to bin it all and just have 350MB, netflix, prime.

    no tv license, no aerial, no freesat, no freeview.

    i will then just get a VPN to get other stuff like celtic tv to watch all the games.
  8. danlightbulb


    Joined: Jul 14, 2005

    Posts: 2,530

    I'd need to keep tv licence because I watch bbc quite often, but not too bothered about recording stuff because I use catch up services.

    At the moment its looking like vodafone superfast 2 at £23 per month plus either netflix level 2 (£8.99) or level 3 (£12.99) depending on whether I think its worth getting a good HDR tv or not.

    The avforums recommended tv for £500 is the Hisense brand (either 55" or 65" - both are £500) but if going HDR the minimum recommended steps up to £1200. That's quite a jump.
  9. TJM

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jun 10, 2007

    Posts: 2,366

    Take a look at Roku's devices. They support every major streaming service and are easy to use (I've set them up for older relatives and not had to provide any tech support beyond telling them to occasionally restart it).

    There is no subscription service that covers all or even most of the popular content. It is fractured between Netflix, Now TV (Sky's offering and HD only) and Amazon Prime. Disney+ is launching next month and will hive off even more content. If more UHD/HDR content is a must, buy an Apple TV 4K and pick up cheap films in the sales.

    And don't worry about future proofing with these type of devices. They're essentially disposable - affordable and replaced every year or two by improved versions.
  10. BowdonUK


    Joined: Jan 17, 2016

    Posts: 3,436

    There are quite a few HD channels on freeview these days if you're in the right location. They aren't 4K but they still look better than SD channels.
  11. Eurofighter

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Mar 20, 2014

    Posts: 1,501

    I just have Vodafone fibre broadband and netflix. I did have amazon prime.

    Bought a new LG TV. Buy a smart tv then you dont need an amazon tv stick. Amazon tv stick is better than roku i think.

    If you think this is confusing. Wait until you want surround sound.
  12. Apex


    Joined: Feb 12, 2006

    Posts: 10,327

    Location: Surrey

    Me too. Though with Google chromecast but for hotels it's brill
  13. Gimpymoo


    Joined: May 31, 2005

    Posts: 14,921

    Location: Nottingham

    Recently did just what the op is referring to.

    A Roku box is better than the OS on a TV, apps normally run faster with better hardware and you can get "all the apps" unlike TV's which are bound by licensing agreements meaning 2 "SMART TV's" can have access to different apps.
  14. AndyCr15


    Joined: Apr 28, 2011

    Posts: 10,196

    Location: London, UK

    Tbh, if you're only paying £50 a month, I'm not sure switching to streaming to save money is a big difference? £50 isn't a lot surely? I used to pay £120 a month when I cut the cord. PS is paying £150 a month, again, it's worth cutting the cord. For £50 a month, if you then get Netflix and Amazon, you're not all that much better off a month and you still have a 'limited' amount? If you got all the services that are soon to be out, you'd be paying more.

    Personally, I still would cut the cord, but I guess just not for a money saving point of view. There's so much good content on Netflix these days, I think most people could happily be kept busy most evenings with quality TV.

    You understand, Netflix is a service and a Firestick is hardware that runs services?

    I would expect a new TV can be cast to, if not I would definitely recommend a Chromecast. Most apps on your phone (like iPlayer) can cast to TV's these days.

    Does your NAS support DLNA? I think that's the important bit. I have a file server which I run Serviio (and Plex) from to watch content stored on it. Combine that with Showsrss.info and... I'm not sure what else I'm allowed to say... but new shows just appear for me all the time.
  15. moon man


    Joined: Nov 17, 2003

    Posts: 2,755

    Location: St Breward Cornwall

    im still rocking an old panasonic plasma ,got a now tv stick for under 15 quid including 3 months sky ,but theres always an offer ,im paying £2.60 a month for sky cinema ,but the apps are so useful for catchup ,uktv play has loads of boxsets red bull tv ect ect .have freesat hd built in to tv also ,even though its a dinosaur

    Edit spelling due to eyesight!!
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2020
  16. LiE


    Joined: Aug 2, 2005

    Posts: 19,502

    Location: Milton Keynes

  17. Dirk Diggler


    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 13,228

    If you pay £33 per month to Virgin for that then just add a Netflix subscription and you're golden. The Netflix app can run through your VM box but to be honest I think you'll be hard pushed to find a new TV that doesn't have a Netflix app. My £340 LG 4k TV even has a Netflix button on the remote.

    No way I would ditch Virgin Fibre for some Vodafone pish, especially when you're only saving about a fiver a month. I think you may be brainstorming a problem that doesn't exist?
  18. 413x


    Joined: Jan 13, 2010

    Posts: 17,256

    Location: Cardiff

    We just have Netflix.

    No BBC etc.
  19. Hades


    Joined: Oct 19, 2002

    Posts: 23,584

    Location: Surrey and London

    I have a Roku stick plugged into the TV and subscribe to Amazon Prime and Netflix. I wouldn't be without them. I also occasionally subscribe to NowTV for recent films and box sets. NowTV also streams some of the Sky channels because it's owned by Sky.

    Then I just install various apps on the Roku for other channels such as iplayer, ITV, C4 etc.

    There is also an app called TVPlayer which streams all the major channels. Unfortunately it had a lot of them removed a few montha ago so I don't use it anymore. But it may be worth a look to see if its improved again.
  20. danlightbulb


    Joined: Jul 14, 2005

    Posts: 2,530

    Currently pay £54 for 100 Mbps broadband, tv and phone.

    Switching to landline broadband 63 Mbps would cost about £23, + £9 for netflix standard = £32.

    A saving of £22 isnt huge i know but still worth it given i hardly use virgin tv now. And id still have freeview.

    If i stick with virgin fibre its £33 + £9 so £42.