YOU ARE NIAVE
At least I can spell.
YOU ARE NIAVE
soon learn to loathe them and disrupt them when and where possible.
I've done almost 20 years with RM in a variety of different jobs over different positions.Perhaps you could tell me how you have managed to get such a terrible relationship with employers generally? Which part of your performance or attitude do you fail to take responsibility for in the work place?
DA has been in place for the best part of the last decade, I believe that it has ruined Royal Mail.
Before the monopoly was lifted RM used to make vast profits, I think at one time they were handing £1M a day back to the treasury. The profits also went across the group and subsidised loss making sub post offices, which now have closed as quickly as pubs leaving the general public up in arms.
There was a time when it was a great industry and this government is to blame for ruining it, so your first sentence may well be right.
First thing I've read from you that I can agree with!Fine, sack them then, if they serve no productive purpose, get rid of them.
Like I said, if they aren't providing a business benefit, get rid of them. I'm not someone who argues just for unproductive or unnecessary workers to get sacked, the exact same applies to management as well.
And my serious answer is to get rid of them then. Downsize the lot of them if they aren't doing anything useful or constructive to help the business. It might even make things better for the frontline staff in the process.
That is the problem with monopolies, you have no choice but to use them and so they can fleece you while still providing poor service.
Fair play to you, but you're still niave, naive or incredibly wet behind the ears to post an OP like you have done.At least I can spell.
Who said I hated my job?If you hate your job that much as far as I'm concerned thats your problem.
Ha, in Royal Mail? Nooooooooo!!!Yeah it has been available for a while but the data pushing systems that allow external couriers/printing plants to use it wern't in place straight away. And in part it is Royal Mail's fault, the two guys that built the system to integrate with DSA used to be lead software developers for RM but left due to poor management/pay.

It's just being in the company of the pocket hitlers in the first half of the day what spoils it.
First thing I've read from you that I can agree with!
But it'll never happen. They've created themselves a nice little year upon year cost cutting culture to shape up RM for privatisation and in the process "earned" themselves tasty four figure bonuses (whilst we do well to get three figures).
Now that RM isn't apparently going to be privatised, no-one seems to want to buy it, they continue with their cost cutting because they've all got a taste for their bonuses and don't want it to stop.

Fair play to you, but you're still niave, naive or incredibly wet behind the ears to post an OP like you have done.
FWIW you cited "better wages/holidays/pensions" when none of these apply to any of the IA that RM is taking.
It's just being in the company of the pocket hitlers in the first half of the day what spoils it.
Oh I see so it's just management that is the problem?
Well boo-hoo, I'm pretty sure this is the atmosphere in every company on the planet.
EDS/HP employees will probably be on strike by the end of September, severely affecting many government IT services no doubt.
The strike action is in response to forced pay cuts, erosion of terms and conditions and the many redundancies that are coming, despite the company making $1billion in profit last year, rather than trying to force ridiculous pay rises through.
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/08/06/eds_hp_paycuts/
http://www.microscope.co.uk/welcome/news/vendor-news/unions-vow-to-fight-hp-redundancies/
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/16/hp_moves_compulsory_redundancies/

Royal Mail always used to provide a decent service as far as I'm concerned and the price of stamps has never really been a unfairly high, so that's a bit of an unfair charge imo. I would argue that the old Royal Mail was a good example of how a necessary monopoly should be run.
The situation only changed when the government of the time forced unfair competition on them, where private companies can cherry pick the most profitable pick-ups, and forced the RM to deliver them at an unfairly cheap price. It really does beggar belief why they did this.
First thing I've read from you that I can agree with!
But it'll never happen. They've created themselves a nice little year upon year cost cutting culture to shape up RM for privatisation and in the process "earned" themselves tasty four figure bonuses (whilst we do well to get three figures).
Now that RM isn't apparently going to be privatised, no-one seems to want to buy it, they continue with their cost cutting because they've all got a taste for their bonuses and don't want it to stop.
Who said I hated my job?
On a nice day, once I've left the sorting office I struggle to think of a better job. I'm my own boss, out for a walk, see people that I've got to know over the years, get the kind of respect that normal people in civvies don't get. It's awesome.
It's just being in the company of the pocket hitlers in the first half of the day what spoils it.
Theres no point whatsoever in members of the public discussing the merits of pro or anti monopoly where RM are concerned because it never has nor never will affect you. If anything the regulator is doing the man in the street a favour because if RM were allowed to charge what it actually cost (and an extra penny for profit) for letters and packets then you'd see a significant increase in the price of stamps, although not to the point where you'd think it was unreasonable. The end of the monopoly has always been about buisness mail, or Downstream access which has already been mentioned, thats the killer.Royal Mail always used to provide a decent service as far as I'm concerned and the price of stamps has never really been a unfairly high, so that's a bit of an unfair charge imo. I would argue that the old Royal Mail was a good example of how a necessary monopoly should be run.
The situation only changed when the government of the time forced unfair competition on them, where private companies can cherry pick the most profitable pick-ups, and forced the RM to deliver them at an unfairly cheap price. It really does beggar belief why they did this.
Making the unions liable for the cost to HP/EDS will put an end to that![]()