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Going to buy Ryzen for a photo/video, but 7700K benches smoke it sadly- help me choose what2buy
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Go with the best you can for the tasks you use - you have to realise every new release comes with mega hype,which will take time to calm down,and then people can have a better look at things.
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Yeah Im just looking at numbers tbh - however I'm still not sure windows is also playing completely correctly with the new Ryzen CPU, because on paper its skylake/broadwell level - and in some benchs its destroying, near 7700k IPC, but 90% others it doesnt - it just doesnt make sense, the only thing I can think of is its not optimized somehow or the softwares running it as 'intel cpu code' (yeah sure its 64x86) but with intel architecture in mind.
I am going to wait abit I think unless a great deal comes along - Ryzen is hinting at IPC well above x99 (when I say hinting its defo done some IPC stuff thats faster 'than it should be') and approaching 7700k
Its a tricky choice because, like most people I use a PC as my business absolute foundation - its my core device I use hours per day - so its got to be right for photo/video
I'm using both, mainly because of the amount of plugins installed in CS5 that I don't necessarily wish to reinstall again. Cs5 boots in about five seconds and is responsive. CC takes between 15-20 seconds before it has completly loaded and I'm able to use the cursor
I can hope.
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The thing is, they haven't touched some of the code for over 26 years, they would have to touch this ancient code to make it truly multi threaded (its why only SOME parts of adobes stuff is multi - realistically if you did it from scratch it would be all)...........so frankly there is no hope this will change unless all of a sudden they start loosing massive market share to others.
Intel CPUs have a lot of magic inside that help them achieve that performance, very advanced branch prediction and caching behaviors etc. You can't really compare paper specs and say 1archietcture should do as well as a different unless you are one of the most senior engineers at Intel/AMD with inside knowledge of trade secrets.
What you say could be correct but it is also perfectly reasonable that Intel has a lot of advanced technology that is helping out in most benchmarks but not all. This is Intel's 7th generation of the current architecture so you expect it to be very well optimized and tweaked. This is the first ZEN, I expect there are lots of improvements that can be made in future iterations. Given Zen is close to the latest intel I expect Zen to do very well over the next years.
As a software develop I don't think there is really anything behind intel specific optimizations. For starters these will mostly be down to the compiler and not the software developers, especially in msot software written in higher level languages. AMD will be working closely with MS to help optimize the VC++ compiler that most windows software would use.
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The AMD SMT implementation seems to get more gains over Intel in non-gaming scenarios but I suspect SMT does not help so much for image editing stuff.
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Going 7700k route 
Going 7700k route
Hi @Combat squirrel, can I be nosey and ask what your final spec is for your 7700k build. I am just in the process of sorting a spec out myself and am very interested in what you have gone with and your reasons if I may ask. Many thanks in advance.
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Sadly iv had to halt the build
I couldnt get in a reasonable time frame the parts I wanted :'(Sadly iv had to halt the build
Oh no!!