Going Vegetarian.
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goldilocks said:
Neither does a cow that's killed humanely. E.g. bolt through the brain. It's dead instantly, no pain.
goldilocks said:
It's still life. Vegetarians who don't meat because you're ending an animals life need to realise that plants are a form of life too.
my friend calls herself a flexitarian, i.e she eats a mainly vegetarian diet but occasionally she will want crave fish (obv a sign of needing protein or something) and will have some.
also, i know you can get "organic" nonsense, but you know all the pesticides and traps put down to keep the crop safe kill animals...
also, i know you can get "organic" nonsense, but you know all the pesticides and traps put down to keep the crop safe kill animals...
iCraig said:
That's nature.
Breeding animals, and sticking them in horrid conditions, only to kill them at a later date is not natural, it's exploitation. If you can't comprehend that, then I'm sorry but you can continue eating meat in ignorance.
Enjoy.
norm said:
Animals aren't kept in horrid conditions, though, and aren't even killed inhumaneley, contrary to what the nutcases at PETA would have you believe—have you ever actually been to an slaughterhouse? We're about a zillion times nicer to animals when killing them than most predators in nature are to their prey.
I really detest the holier-than-thou attitude some vegetarians seem to have, as if they're better than you because they've freed themselves from some sort of ignorance by choosing not to eat meat. It's a lifestyle choice, I respect your right to make that choice, but you're not better than people who eat meat solely because you do not. Please, get off your high horse.
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“Originally Posted by goldilocks
they do not have a nervous system...“
Perhaps not but some have different system that does the same job.
”He found that each time a trigger hair was touched it fired off a wave of electrical activity almost identical to the nerve impulses, or action potentials, produced by animal neurons. This experiment was carried out on the Sundew and Sensitive plant - with similar conclusions!”
1960 and 1970, Burdon-Sanderson who was testing plants in response to touch.
"Now with modern day equipment, plant physiologists are beginning to understand much more about plant movement. It has been confirmed that the impulses Burdon-Sanderson detected are indeed action potentials similar to those in animals, they are also now beginning to unravel the molecular and cellular reasons of the ability of plants to respond to touch."
they do not have a nervous system...“
Perhaps not but some have different system that does the same job.
”He found that each time a trigger hair was touched it fired off a wave of electrical activity almost identical to the nerve impulses, or action potentials, produced by animal neurons. This experiment was carried out on the Sundew and Sensitive plant - with similar conclusions!”
1960 and 1970, Burdon-Sanderson who was testing plants in response to touch.
"Now with modern day equipment, plant physiologists are beginning to understand much more about plant movement. It has been confirmed that the impulses Burdon-Sanderson detected are indeed action potentials similar to those in animals, they are also now beginning to unravel the molecular and cellular reasons of the ability of plants to respond to touch."
norm said:
Yes but we're talking about the human killings of animals for food. It's not exploitation, it's evolution. We no longer hunt our food with spears and fire, we farm our cattle and poultry for mass food.
norm said:
I eat my meat out of hunger, not ignorance. As I'm fully aware that there is nothing wrong with killing animals for food. It's the way we have naturally evolved to consume food.
I'm having a massive 16oz steak for dinner tonight, so yes, I shall enjoy.
“Breeding animals, and sticking them in horrid conditions, only to kill them at a later date is not natural, it's exploitation. If you can't comprehend that, then I'm sorry but you can continue eating meat in ignorance.”
Breeding plants, and sticking them in horrid conditions, only to kill them at a later date is not natural, it's exploitation. If you can't comprehend that, then I'm sorry but you can continue eating plants in ignorance.
What about those that eat meant from animals and plants that are not in horrid conditions?
Breeding plants, and sticking them in horrid conditions, only to kill them at a later date is not natural, it's exploitation. If you can't comprehend that, then I'm sorry but you can continue eating plants in ignorance.
What about those that eat meant from animals and plants that are not in horrid conditions?
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vegetarianism (yes it is an ism) is the most rediculas fad of the century, why people think that the way the animal is killed has any change just because one person stops eating it is beyond me. stoping eating it becuase you want to loose weight is not vegetarianism, its called a diet, im sure there are plenty of diets out there that wont let you eat meat just carbohydrates or sumthing. stoping eating meat because you dont like the thought of it once living is called being a pansy. Also the amount of meat is not goigt o be stoped because a few people become vegetarian, thos few people are stupid
vegetarians are also scraunt weak pasty people. vegetarianism doesnt exist, it is either dieting, being a pansy, or being stupid
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also potsey learn how to use the quote button
vegetarians are also scraunt weak pasty people. vegetarianism doesnt exist, it is either dieting, being a pansy, or being stupid
(only my viewpoint
)also potsey learn how to use the quote button
The reason vegetarians live longer, is because most take care of themselves, exercise, eat better. Not because of the lack of meat.
Nothing wrong if that's what you want to do, just make sure you get enough vitamin and minerals. and take B12 supplements. No known veg is known to contain it. even seaweed and other sources have been shown not to contain it.
Also don't use quorn and meat replacement or vegetarian dishes. There's plent of nice meals that don't use meat rather than are vegaterian.
Nothing wrong if that's what you want to do, just make sure you get enough vitamin and minerals. and take B12 supplements. No known veg is known to contain it. even seaweed and other sources have been shown not to contain it.
Also don't use quorn and meat replacement or vegetarian dishes. There's plent of nice meals that don't use meat rather than are vegaterian.
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robmiller said:
lol pansys just get a 12 bore shotgun
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Pottsey said:
What about plant torture? How do you do it, and is it fun? Plants are alive in the sense that they grow but as goldilocks says they don't have a nervous system, nor feelings as such.
Pottsey said:
Because they are and they do, I don't tend to use that as a primary excuse but it is one of the reasons why I don't eat meat. I do have to eat something however and since I have chosen not to eat meat that pretty much leaves vegetables.
Pottsey said:
I also wouldn't be so sure about all meat eaters knowing that they are eating something that is alive, I've met a few who don't seem able to associate a cow in a field with the steak on their plate (I almost said the burger in MacDonalds but I can see why you might not associate one with the other
). How about we stop comparing who is better or worse in the scenario here, eating meat is a choice just like vegetarianism is, why does one have to be better or worse?
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the starter of this thread should set up a poll, to see how many people eat meat, and how many dont, if you can set up a poll, im not sure if u can or not, never tried