Golf Eos

Morba · 29 May 2006 at 22:36

does the e46 not have emergency roll over bars that pop up should you be involved in an accident?

NickXX · 29 May 2006 at 22:43

Morba said:
does the e46 not have emergency roll over bars that pop up should you be involved in an accident?

I believe so.

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 22:45

Morba said:
does the e46 not have emergency roll over bars that pop up should you be involved in an accident?

you're kidding? how fast do they react?

Matblack · 29 May 2006 at 22:49

The_Dark_Side said:
you're kidding? how fast do they react?

Very very

I've seen the ones on the Merc SL engage

MB

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 22:53

Matblack said:
Very very

I've seen the ones on the Merc SL engage

MB

/impressed.

even so wouldn't you rather put your trust in something static like a beefed up 'A' pillar rather than a device with moving parts+electrical components?

NickXX · 29 May 2006 at 22:54

The_Dark_Side said:
you're kidding? how fast do they react?

They hide in the rear head rests and pop-up when the car thinks it's rolling over.

Morba · 29 May 2006 at 22:55

thought they did

NickXX · 29 May 2006 at 22:55

The_Dark_Side said:
/impressed.

even so wouldn't you rather put your trust in something static like a beefed up 'A' pillar rather than a device with moving parts+electrical components?

It's still going to have a beefed up 'A' pillar, but the rollover protection is to protect the passengers in the back seats.

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 22:59

NickXX said:
It's still going to have a beefed up 'A' pillar, but the rollover protection is to protect the passengers in the back seats.

i'd still prefer a fixed roll-over bar...although this is much more unsightly.
i can't help but feel if it relies on moving parts and sensors then even a minute percentage of them must fail, and knowing my luck...

NickXX · 29 May 2006 at 23:07

The_Dark_Side said:
i'd still prefer a fixed roll-over bar...although this is much more unsightly.
i can't help but feel if it relies on moving parts and sensors then even a minute percentage of them must fail, and knowing my luck...

Yeah, but when you get down to stuff like this it gets silly - it's WAY more likely that you'll do something like crash head on into a tree at 50 with the roof up than roll over WITH passengers in the back seat AND have the crash bars fail, so the designers deemed it reasonable just to have the pop-up bars.

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 23:10

NickXX said:
Yeah, but when you get down to stuff like this it gets silly - it's WAY more likely that you'll do something like crash head on into a tree at 50 with the roof up than roll over WITH passengers in the back seat AND have the crash bars fail, so the designers deemed it reasonable just to have the pop-up bars.

the Titanic "couldn't" sink so the designers deemed it reasonable to skimp on the number of lifeboats it was equipped with.
it's a safe bet the passengers onboard that night didn't agree it was a good decision.

NickXX · 29 May 2006 at 23:13

The_Dark_Side said:
the Titanic "couldn't" sink so the designers deemed it reasonable to skimp on the number of lifeboats it was equipped with.
it's a safe bet the passengers onboard that night didn't agree it was a good decision.

I think today's car safety designers are a touch more safety concious than early 20th Century ship builders...

vanpeebles · 29 May 2006 at 23:13

The_Dark_Side said:
the Titanic "couldn't" sink so the designers deemed it reasonable to skimp on the number of lifeboats it was equipped with.
it's a safe bet the passengers onboard that night didn't agree it was a good decision.

but who would own a convertible in an ice berg region?

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 23:17

NickXX said:
I think today's car safety designers are a touch more safety concious than early 20th Century ship builders...

i was likening two uncommon scenarios.
my point was that one or more of these active bars must fail.
nothing that complex can be 100% reliable.

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 23:18

vanpeebles said:
but who would own a convertible in an ice berg region?

who'd pack for the atlantic and leave the binoculars at home?

NickXX · 29 May 2006 at 23:18

The_Dark_Side said:
i was likening two uncommon scenarios.
my point was that one or more of these active bars must fail.
nothing that complex can be 100% reliable.

Another uncommon scenario would be a blow out of a tire on the motorway, at 80mph. That is a lot more common however than a rollbar failing in its time of need.

vanpeebles · 29 May 2006 at 23:19

The_Dark_Side said:
who'd pack for the atlantic and leave the binoculars at home?

also are you suggesting that convertibles should have liferafts?

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 23:21

NickXX said:
Another uncommon scenario would be a blow out of a tire on the motorway, at 80mph. That is a lot more common however than a rollbar failing in its time of need.

a failing roll bar would be a much bigger deal than a tyre letting go on the motorway.

The_Dark_Side · 29 May 2006 at 23:22

vanpeebles said:
also are you suggesting that convertibles should have liferafts?

they don't need them mate.
welds, not rivets.....that was the problem.

vanpeebles · 29 May 2006 at 23:26

you still on msn?