Good Cheap Server - HP Proliant Microserver 4 BAY - OWNERS THREAD

rotor said:
Has it been worth the effort and the expense? My N54L is definitely getting louder (although with spring/summer come increased ambient temperature which could be contributing), so I'm not sure if it's worth all the hassle if it's not going to be dramatically quieter. Was planning to get Sunon 40mm and Noctua NF-F12 2000RPM 120mm. That's £30 worth of fans, plus a couple of hours of swearing and grunting. Any thoughts?
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It is quieter but the 120cm fan runs at 900rpm and it's silent but the cpu temps are in the high 60s and it's not warm yet, put back in the old 120 fan and the temps back to 35
 
idmanager said:
It is quieter but the 120cm fan runs at 900rpm and it's silent but the cpu temps are in the high 60s and it's not warm yet, put back in the old 120 fan and the temps back to 35
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Which 120mm fan have you got? The stock one is a 3,100 RPM fan, and consensus seems to be that the BIOS averages around 35%, which would be 1,085 RPM. So if you have such a massive difference from your fan at 900 RPM, then it must be a really low CFM fan? Just trying to work out how all this ties together. My N54L CPU is 54C right now (with the stock fan), but it is in my office, which is on the top floor of my house, and it gets really warm up there of an afternoon.
 
I've just ordered a replacement for the power supply fan: Sunon HA40201V4-0000-999 MagLev Super-Silence for €9.50 (from some German supplier). Hopefully this will get rid of the "whine" component of the fan noise.
 
rotor said:
Which 120mm fan have you got? The stock one is a 3,100 RPM fan, and consensus seems to be that the BIOS averages around 35%, which would be 1,085 RPM. So if you have such a massive difference from your fan at 900 RPM, then it must be a really low CFM fan? Just trying to work out how all this ties together. My N54L CPU is 54C right now (with the stock fan), but it is in my office, which is on the top floor of my house, and it gets really warm up there of an afternoon.
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Got the one from my earlier post, that the mod said purchase

Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PL1 Fan - 120mm (900rpm)

But I can't keep temps low, I have a fan from my h100 when I swapped them out for Scythe Gentle Typhoon, I might try that, did try to get typhoon again but it looks like it's discontinued everywhere so I just went with the modded one they listed that worked, if the fan is lower than 500rpm the system shuts down
 
idmanager said:
Got the one from my earlier post, that the mod said purchase

Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PL1 Fan - 120mm (900rpm)

But I can't keep temps low, I have a fan from my h100 when I swapped them out for Scythe Gentle Typhoon, I might try that, did try to get typhoon again but it looks like it's discontinued everywhere so I just went with the modded one they listed that worked, if the fan is lower than 500rpm the system shuts down
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That fan isn't PWM, so how have you got it working? Everything I've read says that the BIOS will shut down the server if it detects fan speeds below about 550RPM. So a non-PWM fan will be reporting exactly 0 RPM to the BIOS!?

I must not understand how PWM/non-PWM fans work...
 
rotor said:
That fan isn't PWM, so how have you got it working? Everything I've read says that the BIOS will shut down the server if it detects fan speeds below about 550RPM. So a non-PWM fan will be reporting exactly 0 RPM to the BIOS!?

I must not understand how PWM/non-PWM fans work...
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PWM is the 4th wire, the RPM reading is the third wire, so all 3 pin fans report RPM.
 
idmanager said:
Got the one from my earlier post, that the mod said purchase

Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PL1 Fan - 120mm (900rpm)

But I can't keep temps low, I have a fan from my h100 when I swapped them out for Scythe Gentle Typhoon, I might try that, did try to get typhoon again but it looks like it's discontinued everywhere so I just went with the modded one they listed that worked, if the fan is lower than 500rpm the system shuts down
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OK, in that case, your 900RPM fan should be sufficient, as the stock fan (3,100 RPM) is producing roughly 1,085 RPM at 35%. Ah, but what you *aren't* getting, is the benefit of the PWM, where the BIOS ramps up the fan speed depending on the (CPU?) temperature. Stock fan is 1,085RPM at 35%, but 1,750RPM at 50% -- so a 15% increase in the fan speed is already double what you are giving it. You need to get yourself a PWM fan with at least 1,800RPM (preferably 2,000 I reckon) at 100%.
 
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You need one of two cables:

- Molex 4-pin splitter with SATA power adapter (what I used as I had a spare)
- Floppy 4-pin to SATA adapter

You will also need an extra SATA data cable.

That's it really...
 
Same here as I just got one.

Bieber do I need to install an os if it's going to only be used to share and store movies etc?
 
rotor said:
OK, in that case, your 900RPM fan should be sufficient, as the stock fan (3,100 RPM) is producing roughly 1,085 RPM at 35%. Ah, but what you *aren't* getting, is the benefit of the PWM, where the BIOS ramps up the fan speed depending on the (CPU?) temperature. Stock fan is 1,085RPM at 35%, but 1,750RPM at 50% -- so a 15% increase in the fan speed is already double what you are giving it. You need to get yourself a PWM fan with at least 1,800RPM (preferably 2,000 I reckon) at 100%.
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Just a quick update I purchased a Noiseblocker BlackSilent Fan XLP Fan - 120mm PWM (2000rpm) and now it's cool and quiet temp into low 40
 
idmanager said:
Just a quick update I purchased a Noiseblocker BlackSilent Fan XLP Fan - 120mm PWM (2000rpm) and now it's cool and quiet temp into low 40
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are you sure a cable wasn't touching the fins preventing the fan blades moving :p

mine has been running perfectly fine since I modded it back then
 
Depends on how sensitive you are, what you want to use it for & what your noise baseline is.

I didn't even like a single 900rpm Noctua in my HTPC and they're not the noisiest of fans...

Noise baseline makes a difference too... when we were on the outskirts of big city, albeit quiet area of it... I couldn't hear my iMac at all... move to new place at the end of a no-through road in a village with no real traffic... and I can hear the hard drive spinning..

I would not want a Gen8 sitting in my bedroom or living room... but it isn't actually all that noisy. Sitting in the corner of my home office... no problem.
 
Why are you replacing an N54L?

Seems like a pointless cross-grade unless you have some specific usage scenario in mind?

Buy the Gen8 & use it as a second server :p
 
it just looks better and i can put in one of 1230v2 I have in both my 2 desktops when I eventually upgrade to Skylake :)

I got the N54L for free, so no loss there.
 
Will pull the trigger on this at midnight I think. Will see how I feel about the noise, shouldn't have trouble offloading it for what I paid a month or two down the line.
 
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