Good Cheap Server - HP Proliant Microserver 4 BAY - OWNERS THREAD

Any reason no one is using the HD6450's in these? Half the TDP (of an HD5450) which is surely good for overall system temps. I have ordered another Microserver and will be using it as an HTPC (and in the future as additional storage using FlexRAID) and will be putting a HD6450 in it so will report back.
 
Right more or less got my shopping list down, think I'll keep it simple given I can't see myself using ridiculous amounts of storage just on a few hundred lossless CD rips and a few DVDs:

HP Microserver
Icy Box thing (3.5" in 5.25" bay)
USB key (small!) for OS (unRAID)
Right-angled SATA to straight SATA for the drive in the optical bay (which will be the parity one)
ESATA to SATA for attaching the cache drive (goes back into the case through the flap next to the expansion slots)
5 x 3.5" drives, probs F4s, 4 in main bay, one in optical
1x 2.5" drive for cache, placed in gap below optical bay
unRAID license.
Single Molex to two SATA splitter cable for the extra drives
RAM - going to just double the RAM to 2GB as I imagine that's fine for what I'll use it for, what's a good single stick that will play nice with the one that comes bundled?

Btw anyone know if OCUK's F4 stock is the newer bug-free one that won't need to be updated?

You could get one of these instead of the caddy and hacking up the case to get the 2.5" in.

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You don't need to hack the case up to put a 2.5" in, it just sits in a gap above the drive bays but below the optical one. That said, the above is pretty neat.

EDIT - AND, the above could fit x2 3.5" and still leave space for a 2.5" in the gap. Result!

Pic to show where the 2.5" can go from some guy on the unRAID forums:
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Just means using a molex to 3 SATA instead of 2, so that's a total of (using unRAID), 1 cache, 1 parity and 5 for usable storage. Nice suggestion! The only thing, as someone else has said in the AVForums thread, is that does this bracket work with the larger drives (i.e. 2TB), since they have more platters and are taller? Derp, also forgot I would need moar SATA ports, since there's only 5 + the eSATA...
 
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Any reason no one is using the HD6450's in these? Half the TDP (of an HD5450) which is surely good for overall system temps. I have ordered another Microserver and will be using it as an HTPC (and in the future as additional storage using FlexRAID) and will be putting a HD6450 in it so will report back.

I'd like to know too but I think its mainly to do with the cost.

I'm not too sure about the power consumption of the 6450 though. From what I've seen (just a quick google) the 6450 consumes slightly more than the 5450
 
I'd like to know too but I think its mainly to do with the cost.

I'm not too sure about the power consumption of the 6450 though. From what I've seen (just a quick google) the 6450 consumes slightly more than the 5450

Interesting. I hadn't thought about power consumption based on the thought process of lower TDP must = lower power usage. Cost however is a factor as its about £10 more than a 5450.
 
RAM - going to just double the RAM to 2GB as I imagine that's fine for what I'll use it for, what's a good single stick that will play nice with the one that comes bundled?

I'm about to buy a stick of this. I assume that should work fine (and I believe it matches the existing stick, speed-wise).

Btw anyone know if OCUK's F4 stock is the newer bug-free one that won't need to be updated?

I shouldn't worry about that: the firmware update is extremely easy to carry out (one command, and all drives are updated).
 
Interesting. I hadn't thought about power consumption based on the thought process of lower TDP must = lower power usage. Cost however is a factor as its about £10 more than a 5450.

I've just had a quick skim over Tom hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6450-caicos-blu-ray-3d,2920-12.html) and it shows the 6450 consuming more power and does get hotter. It is a review of a reference card though, so some other cards might have better coolers
 
You don't need to hack the case up to put a 2.5" in, it just sits in a gap above the drive bays but below the optical one. That said, the above is pretty neat.

EDIT - AND, the above could fit x2 3.5" and still leave space for a 2.5" in the gap. Result!

Pic to show where the 2.5" can go from some guy on the unRAID forums:
http://i.imgur.com/r2Vcj.png[

Just means using a molex to 3 SATA instead of 2, so that's a total of (using unRAID), 1 cache, 1 parity and 5 for usable storage. Nice suggestion! The only thing, as someone else has said in the AVForums thread, is that does this bracket work with the larger drives (i.e. 2TB), since they have more platters and are taller? Derp, also forgot I would need moar SATA ports, since there's only 5 + the eSATA...[/QUOTE]

The bracket if you look closely has 2 sets of holes one above the other to allow different spacings between the drives. I've got one on order so i'll see how it fits.
 
You don't need to hack the case up to put a 2.5" in, it just sits in a gap above the drive bays but below the optical one. That said, the above is pretty neat.

EDIT - AND, the above could fit x2 3.5" and still leave space for a 2.5" in the gap. Result!

Pic to show where the 2.5" can go from some guy on the unRAID forums:
http://i.imgur.com/r2Vcj.png[

Just means using a molex to 3 SATA instead of 2, so that's a total of (using unRAID), 1 cache, 1 parity and 5 for usable storage. Nice suggestion! The only thing, as someone else has said in the AVForums thread, is that does this bracket work with the larger drives (i.e. 2TB), since they have more platters and are taller? Derp, also forgot I would need moar SATA ports, since there's only 5 + the[/quote]

I've got one on order so i'll see how it fits.
 
Looking at some of the threads here, people that ordered in March were getting F4s with a factory date of Jan, so it being July they should all be made well into 2011, not to mention OCUK has them on offer most of the time so I doubt it'll need doing anyway.

Cheers gaiz. Someone on AVF has said the mounting holes for the HD's are 28mm centre to centre on the bracket.
 
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Trying to decide between:

a) Microserver

b) Asus E35M1-I DELUXE , build using a Lian Li A05B that I have spare.

Options wise, I was looking at the Kingston blu 8GB RAM and 6x WD20EARS.... anything better for the money?
 
@ pioneer

I myself would go with the microserver. I have a Gigabyte 350N and well it does do everything well, but the Micro is better value for the money and slightly better performance to match. Add a graphics card perfect HTPC. It works with win 7, 2008 R2, Openfiler, Nexenta etc. I am very pleased I was very surprised of the value and build quality also.

I have Adaptec 3405 installed, but you dont have to add a raid card. Use something like openfiler which is easy to setup. I only have 3GB ram ECC installed. The second dimm only cost £18.

I'm building 2 more for friends now with 5450's installed. Plays 1080p perfectly :) Going to buy some more too.

The Asus boad must cost near £100 with cash back these are only £121 and thats with ram, HD etc.

I can assure you I don't think you will be dissapointed.
 
Are you using it as an HTPC too then?

The AMD zacate would play 1080p and has hdmi built in so saves buying a seperate GPU. So if you factor in the £35 one of those costs, the only "extra one gets with the HP is the case and the psu, oh and HD? This is what makes the decision a difficult one.

Do people generally run a HTPC/Server hybrid? I always imagined these should be 2 seperate devices in a home...
 
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@ pioneer

It's your device and to get the best use out of it why not use it for both purposes. I use mine as a File server because of the raid card I can't as fit a decent graphics card.

You are right though you would have to buy a graphics card, but this comes with everything else. I know you already have a case so i can see where you are coming from. Plus this is bigger than a E350 would be. The main highlight for this type of unit is adaptability to what ever role you want.

I am fitting HD5450 for other people though. Its a server and as such has been built to function that way and with ECC Ram it performs etc. Again it's all up to you. I think you would be better reading other forums like AVforums or HardOP before making final decision though.
 
Are you using it as an HTPC too then?

The AMD zacate would play 1080p and has hdmi built in so saves buying a seperate GPU. So if you factor in the £35 one of those costs, the only "extra one gets with the HP is the case and the psu? This is what makes the decision a difficult one.

Do people generally run a HTPC/Server hybrid? I always imagined these should be 2 seperate devices in a home...

I will be running it as an HTPC with the option to pop in storage drives (and use FlexRAID) as/when needed. I have another Microserver which is a 10TB unRAID box. These servers are just so versatile!
 
I'm about to buy a stick of this. I assume that should work fine (and I believe it matches the existing stick, speed-wise).

I thought you couldn't mix ECC and Non-ECC sticks?


Are most of you guys running the microserver as a HTPC connected into your tv via HDMI or are you going to stream from the microserver via a PS3 etc?
 
I thought you couldn't mix ECC and Non-ECC sticks?

I've definitely read that others have done so successfully in the MicroServer. It may mean that all sticks are running without correction, but I'm not sure I care about that.

I'll let y'all know if it works for me. :)
 
Hmmm, just stumbled across an article discussing how the 1.3Ghz CPU in the microserver is below the minimum requirements for the WHS 2011 installer? Is this true and how does one install WHS 2011 then?
 
Hmmm, just stumbled across an article discussing how the 1.3Ghz CPU in the microserver is below the minimum requirements for the WHS 2011 installer? Is this true and how does one install WHS 2011 then?

it seems to install fine without problems, the official minimum requirements is 1.4hgz dual core

Maybe the athlon cpu is rated 1.3ghz but works more efficiently and performs the same as a more power rated cpu or something.
 
I'm building 2 more for friends now with 5450's installed. Plays 1080p perfectly :)

What OS do you run on it mate? I've got server 2008 r2 and uyse xbmc to view files stored on local drives but it feels a bit jerky and slow response times. I'm wondering if I should try something else?
 
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