Good Cheap Server - HP Proliant Microserver 4 BAY - OWNERS THREAD

@ pioneer

I'm building 2 more for friends now with 5450's installed. Plays 1080p perfectly :) Going to buy some more too.

The Asus boad must cost near £100 with cash back these are only £121 and thats with ram, HD etc.

I can assure you I don't think you will be dissapointed.

Can you confirm your setup please, im guessing you have the Raid card in the PCIe x 16 and have you installed the graphics on the PCie x1? :confused:
 
@ Mikoyan I have the raid card in my own. The others I have built, and are building have the graphics card in the same Pci-e 16x slot. I dont know of any suitable Pci-e x1 graphics card.

@timmy85 Windows 7. I have win2008r2 on my own, but no graphics card installed.
 
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It is possible to get it working, have a Google.

Nope not possible.. google it, brings up nothing, the microserver does not have any audio decoding hardware..

Just to confirm are you talking about a ati gfx card with hdmi sound?? because I'm talking about original configuration without any extra hardware.




Silenced HP Proliant Microserver
I know I'm going on a bit with this, and sounding a bit like a broken record, this will be my last post on this, I promise.

I think I may have been dealt a bad card, as my configuration was pretty damn noisy.

I installed

-Akasa Apache PWM fan
-PicoPSU 150W passive power supply
-WD green 500GB

And the setup is no as near to silent as you can possibly get. It's a complete dream, I have it in my bedroom and I can't hear a thing. I talked about this on the silentpcforum and a lot of people were saying that the PSU isn't loud at all. For some reason on mine it was very loud, maybe a bad one slipped through the net. The stock harddrive (250GB) is ridiculously noisy as well, that thing is going to give me tinnitus or something, so it has to go. I swapped the WD Green 500GB over from my desktop onto the microserver, I know have the microserver hard drive on my desktop machine and it's very noisy. I only did this temporarily to test it before I order 3 more brand new WD EARS drives.

I'm happy with the results. The microserver is so quiet now that i need to get up close and put my ears next to the case to hear anything.
 
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Nope not possible.. google it, brings up nothing, the microserver does not have any audio decoding hardware..

Just to confirm are you talking about a ati gfx card with hdmi sound?? because I'm talking about original configuration without any extra hardware.

Don't use the term microserver, you're wanting to get audio working over RDP sans audio hardware.
 
I am very impressed with this.... :D

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@ tigerUk

Great news might go down the same avenue as you later although I am not finding mine noisy enough. ;)

Can you link or give part numbers of items used in the end?
 
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Nope not possible.. google it, brings up nothing, the microserver does not have any audio decoding hardware..

Just to confirm are you talking about a ati gfx card with hdmi sound?? because I'm talking about original configuration without any extra hardware.

I've got the original configuration without any extra hardware and I get sound over RDP. Windows 7 on Microserver and on machine using to remotely connect.

Gives me pings etc when doing something wrong and if I try to watch a video (youtube or file on disk with WMP or VLC) I also get sound.

Can't help you at all with how to get this working though as it just worked off the bat without any configuration or effort what so ever. I don't even need it.
 
I recently bought one of these machines, with the intent to install WHS2011 and use a DE replacement. However the DE replacements are very disappointing for me right now, so I have decided to just go with FreeNAS.

I have 4x 2TB drives down below, and had a 1.5TB drive in the ODD bay to use as WHS's system disk. However, I can run FreeNAS off of a usb key, so that frees up the top bay to install another 2TB drive.

I have the hacked bios that [hopefully] enabled AHCI on the ODD's sata port, but is it generally not a good idea to make a RAID across different controller cards? Would I be asking for trouble if I went with a RAID of 5x drives-- one of which is running off that separate non-SAS port from the other 4x drives?
 
The raid you are describing is software raid if using Freenas probably with ZFS file system. This is not a problem at all. The only thing I found with Freenas it seemed slow performance wise, but the array I built may have been degraded not finishing its intialisation fully.
 
I recently bought one of these machines, with the intent to install WHS2011 and use a DE replacement. However the DE replacements are very disappointing for me right now, so I have decided to just go with FreeNAS.

I have 4x 2TB drives down below, and had a 1.5TB drive in the ODD bay to use as WHS's system disk. However, I can run FreeNAS off of a usb key, so that frees up the top bay to install another 2TB drive.

I have the hacked bios that [hopefully] enabled AHCI on the ODD's sata port, but is it generally not a good idea to make a RAID across different controller cards? Would I be asking for trouble if I went with a RAID of 5x drives-- one of which is running off that separate non-SAS port from the other 4x drives?

it's the same controller controlling all 6 of the servers sata ports.
 
@ Mikoyan I have the raid card in my own. The others I have built, and are building have the graphics card in the same Pci-e 16x slot. I dont know of any suitable Pci-e x1 graphics card.

@timmy85 Windows 7. I have win2008r2 on my own, but no graphics card installed.

ok thanks for confirming :)
 
I recently bought one of these machines, with the intent to install WHS2011 and use a DE replacement. However the DE replacements are very disappointing for me right now, so I have decided to just go with FreeNAS.

I have 4x 2TB drives down below, and had a 1.5TB drive in the ODD bay to use as WHS's system disk. However, I can run FreeNAS off of a usb key, so that frees up the top bay to install another 2TB drive.

I have the hacked bios that [hopefully] enabled AHCI on the ODD's sata port, but is it generally not a good idea to make a RAID across different controller cards? Would I be asking for trouble if I went with a RAID of 5x drives-- one of which is running off that separate non-SAS port from the other 4x drives?


Can you elaborate on the 3rd party DE stuff that disappointed you?
 
I need to add 2x2TB drives. What would you guys prefer to use?

I notice that some drives have the 6Gb/s Interface. Are they worth the extra money or so over the standard sata interface?

Also, is spin speed important these days as I see some are 5400RPM, 5900RPM and 7200RPM?

Cheers.
 
Don't use the term microserver, you're wanting to get audio working over RDP sans audio hardware.

thanks i did some searching and came across some instructions, however it still hasn't worked for me. I'll need to take a closer look at it, I don't need sound badly enough to warrant useing up too much of my time, but when I do I'll look up the info.

Most of the info seems to be relating to WHS v1 or 2008, few with regards to 2011, which I'm using.
 
@ tigerUk

Great news might go down the same avenue as you later although I am not finding mine noisy enough. ;)

Can you link or give part numbers of items used in the end?

sure

Akasa Apache http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-061-AK (the brown/camo is a lot cheaper than the black, you may want to pay £4 more for the black is you really want it to match the case.

ATX cable extender http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-064-AK You will need this as the picopsu mobo connecter is too tall for the models 120W and up, 90W and below seems to fit fine though.

Picopsu internal components: PicoPSU-160-XT around £31
Generic power brick: £35, if you shop around you can get these power bricks for £20 used which are designed for LCD tvs and other household goods. I got 12V 12.5A, which is 150W. you multiply the Amps x Volts to work out the watts. Many auction listing won't state the watts. I just bought the power brick from the retailer that sold the picopsu internal bits, to save on headache because I wanted it to work straight out the box.

500GB WD Green Caviar is discontinued i think, they're all the same, you probably want to go for the 2TB which are floating around the £55 mark on ocuk. But do your research, WD green is probably useless if you want to do RAID with.
 
Can you elaborate on the 3rd party DE stuff that disappointed you?

Tried out both Stablebit Drivepool and Drive Bender.

When editing files via my network (reorganizing a huge consolidated media archive on my NAS itself via my PC) it kept giving me errors on moving files, or deleting folders. Turns out that was mostly due to Windows 7 dumb thumbs.db caching (I think), but still the performance was pretty sub-par-- seemingly slower than software raids I have used in the past. Oh yeah, and if you edit anything via a network share (versus like remoting into the WHS machine and moving/renaming files directly on it), I had to constantly keep hitting refresh/f5 for ANY changes to show up in the folder. That alone was annoying me enough to give up on both, as I move/sort a lot of files on my NAS all of the time.

The good about DE though, besides being super easy to set up (I have 15 years technical experience so that ease of set up was a bit wasted on me, but probably is great for others) is that all of the data is kept as normal files on each drive, but just in a hidden drive pooled folder. Therefore if you pop out the drive and plug it in via a SATA<->USB connector, it will see all of the files. Definitely a plus over raids, but all of the above drawbacks turned me off enough that this wasn't enough of a selling point.

Plus, I kept my old super low power headless ASUS EEE Box as my downloads/remote desktop-from-work (for proxy reasons) machine, as I'd rather kept that on 24/7 @ only 10w versus the Microserver @~50w with 5 HDs. My original idea was to toss it and consolidate it along with this NAS using WHS. However, I am wasting that drive space I have WHS installed on by not using WHS, so I figured I might as well put in a 5th 2TB drive, get the same ~7TB drive pool working size that I had from my 4x 2TB drives via DE, only add some raid parity to it too.

Also FreeNAS boots quicker when my girlfriend turns on the NAS to watch some stuff off of it, if it had been off. (~90sec for FreeNas, like 3+ min to return from hibernation from WHS). And believe me, that extra doubled amount of time definitely is noticeable by her and her impatience to want to watch some media right NOW :]
 
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