Goodbye Crysis.

[rayb74]

This isn't true at all, there are a lot of companies that do care about how good their games are and care for the customers. The best example I can think of here is Blizzard. WoW has the biggest customer base from a games point of view and Blizzard actaully care about the game and the customers, if they didn't they would have maintenance every week along with countless updates and patches etc etc all to keep the game balanced and keeping people interested.

And the part about quality movies on a small budget, there are a hell of a lot of games that were on a small budget or made by small companies that have had worldwide success, just look at Worms, i rest my case.

Read my post REAPER thoroughly.

"At least in the movie industry we still have some quality movies that are on a smaller budget and not necessarily from Hollywood.
Unfortunately I don`t think the gaming Industry has enough smaller based production houses capable of resisting the cancer that is the likes of EA and co."

......................................I rest my case.

 

[Psyk]

Yeah everyone knows EA are crap and everything they make is crap, unoriginal and just a rehash of older games. I mean just look at Spore, that's been done before many times and it looks like it'll be crap

If you didn't notice that was sarcasm. EA are starting to focus more on orignal and innovative IP for their games. People can't wait for Spore, which *is* being developed by an EA studio, and yet they seem to ignore that fact. There are other good examples of great original games by EA. Let's face it The Sims was an original and innovative game. Yes they milked it with the crap addons but so what? You weren't forced to buy them and you can't blame a company for making money when there's an opportunity. Don't blame EA for the "crap" games they make, blame society.

The games industry will never be taken seriously without mainstream games like Fifa. A successful game development company needs to make games for everyone, not just gamers. There are movies and TV programs out there for everyone, not just hardcore film buffs. Games should be no different.

Maybe EA could improve their QA department a bit, but that's no reason to hate them.

 

[Darkwave]

Maybe EA could improve their QA department a bit, but that's no reason to hate them.

As a long-time Battlefield fan, I find that their QA department is the entire reason I hate them.

 

[Psyk]

As a long-time Battlefield fan, I find that their QA department is the entire reason I hate them.

The thing is they probably realise it's a problem and are trying to do something about it. I very much doubt they don't care at all.

 

[Darkwave]

The thing is they probably realise it's a problem and are trying to do something about it. I very much doubt they don't care at all.

Yup, they've been trying to do something about it with a number of patches. Each one breaking the game more than the last.

 

[Nieldo]

Yeah everyone knows EA are crap and everything they make is crap, unoriginal and just a rehash of older games. I mean just look at Spore, that's been done before many times and it looks like it'll be crap

I thought maxis was making spore and EA were just publishing it?

 

[Zefan]

I mean just look at Spore, that's been done before many times

Enlighten me.

 

[Psyk]

I thought maxis was making spore and EA were just publishing it?

Maxis is EA owned.

Enlighten me.

Read the rest of my post. I was being sarcastic.

 

[YoungBlood]

I have had a hatred for EA since they aquired Westwood, but its down to each individual.
Im a customer so if you upset me by your actions im gonna stop buying your games. Maybe its just petty, but we are the customers and we can spend our money where we want.
I vowed to not buy another EA game the day they annouced they were shutting down EnB, as im sure a lot of other people did too.
Westwood created a masterpiece and EA completly destroyed it.

 

[Cuchulain]

Bluesnews say's

An update to the EA Eyes Crytek Buy story in IGN defuses rumors that EA is looking to acquire German developer Crytek (story). Word is: "According to a representative for Electronic Arts, Gerhard Florin's comments were misinterpreted; the company is not negotiation the acquisition of Crytek

 

[Chandler_90]

Surely Crytek can just tell them it'll be done when its done..
There are sooooo many publishers that would (probably) love to publish this title.. therefore they are hardly gonna be in a postion whereby if they put up a stance and don't rush they game out then they are in gonna be dropped..

 

[iamgud]

EA suck. They bought Westwood and killed Earth & Beyond. RA2 was good but Generals is nothing special.

C&C Tiberium Wars will be good I imagine but it is not going to add much new stuff from the information seen so far, likely to be another cash in.
Where as a game comming out soon also Supreme Commander has tons of new features etc.

Same for FIFA, Sims and BF2. They just buy anything that does well and relese tonnes of expansions.

Fair enough they do well at business and making money but this isn't an Business Studies forum, our interests should be in good games. Which is not EAs objective.


As for Crysis I am not that bothered, I doubt the multiplayer will be that good which is what I am looking for and as said as crap as EA are they won't mess up the graphics. It is just a worrying trend.

Computer Games is a bigger industry than Movies now and big business know it and want $$$.

 

[Andy298]

Fair enough they do well at business and making money but this isn't an Business Studies forum, our interests should be in good games. Which is not EAs objective.

Yep, as people have already said. It's going down the movie route, all about money!

 

[Psyk]

Yep, as people have already said. It's going down the movie route, all about money!

Am I the only one that doesn't see that as a bad thing? Sure a lot of films are crap, but there are some brilliant films out there too. Do you all really want games to not be taken seriously and remain the pass time of reclusive geeks?

 

[Andy298]

Am I the only one that doesn't see that as a bad thing? Sure a lot of films are crap, but there are some brilliant films out there too. Do you all really want games to not be taken seriously and remain the pass time of reclusive geeks?

I'm not saying that, but it seems that if it continues to go down this route then it will be very rarely we see a quality title. Ok EA, for example, has some excellent titles but what about the sequels? To me they all seem the same with tiny bits that have been chopped and changed. This doesn't justify the 30-40 odd quid price tag they charge, but people still go out and buy these and that's why companies like EA continue to make tedious sequels. They're still making money out of it so they don't see the need to change it. Seems to be a continuing case of 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it' with the likes of EA.

 

[Fr0dders]

Fair enough I don't know the specifics about the issues I just though they were general game balancing ones.

I still don't think Dice are blameless. At the end of the day BF and Crysis are stong games who can if they choose to stand up to EA.

nope have a look at the fixlist for the upcomming 1.4 patch theres stuff fixed in there that should have been fixed long ago

like the blue/red bug of friendly players showing up in the same red text that enemys do.

BF2 was rushed, and the patches were even more rushed

2 of the so called "patches" actually created more problems. The first one we were told to roll back to the previous version, the 2nd one crashed servers and a "hotfix" had to be released.

i love BF2, and play it regularly, but cant help thinking they would have kept a lot more of the community if they hadnt rushed it so damn much, and then to boot released expansions (which they had the nerve to charge for) for an unfinished game.

 

[Fr0dders]

The games industry will never be taken seriously without mainstream games like Fifa. A successful game development company needs to make games for everyone, not just gamers. There are movies and TV programs out there for everyone, not just hardcore film buffs. Games should be no different.

Maybe EA could improve their QA department a bit, but that's no reason to hate them.

i think to fully understand why EA are hated so much, you have to realise they are ultimately a games publisher, not a games developer.

From a games developers point of view, you want your game to be finished, perfect and enjoyed by as many people as possible. EA has signed up lots of developers that have produced wonderfull games

but unfortunately they have also signed up lots of developers that release a new game every year with a different year in the title and the content changed slightly

and the trouble is that people keep buying these games, which puts pressure on the other games develpers to do the same. And for every good game published by EA, there is another one they stuffed up by putting undue pressure on the developers to release early or release umpteen expansions and re-hashed versions of.

 

[Psyk]

i think to fully understand why EA are hated so much, you have to realise they are ultimately a games publisher, not a games developer.

From a games developers point of view, you want your game to be finished, perfect and enjoyed by as many people as possible. EA has signed up lots of developers that have produced wonderfull games

but unfortunately they have also signed up lots of developers that release a new game every year with a different year in the title and the content changed slightly

Hmm that's not strictly true. They are not just publishers. They have many in-house development studios. Also many games series, such as FIFA, are EA games whether they are the actually developers or not. What I mean by that is they have more involvement in it than simply publishing. They fund it, they own the IP and the developer will basically just make the game to their specification.

 

[mr.sly]

"According to a representative for Electronic Arts, Gerhard Florin's comments were misinterpreted; the company is not negotiation the acquisition of Crytek."

Should ease some worries around here. From the IGN article (here) which has been updated.

 

[XPE]

Am I the only one that doesn't see that as a bad thing? Sure a lot of films are crap, but there are some brilliant films out there too. Do you all really want games to not be taken seriously and remain the pass time of reclusive geeks?

So by your thinking if EA release 20 terrible games a year and releaes one good one a a year thats OK

That just seams like a waste of devloper's time to me.