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Em3bbs said:
I don't see any basis for thinking it will be unreliable or that there will be any speed issues. I'm sure that Google can handle most people's home broadband speeds.

And it's hardly rocket science when it comes to a service, it's just online storage. 99% people will just want a folder on their PC and an app for their phone/tablet.
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You are missing my point. People seem to be rating these types of services, based on the posts I have seen, solely on the amount of free space given while not considering other factors like ease of use etc.

Yes it is not "rocket science" but companies have screwed up simple ideas before so it could happen with cloud storage systems as well. An example would be having 100GB of storage but the connection speeds being pish. I would rather have a service with 5GB which was lightning quick.
 
"You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours.

When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content."
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/24/2...erms-of-service-comparison-avoid-google-drive

stay away from google drive.
 
deadite66 said:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/24/2...erms-of-service-comparison-avoid-google-drive

stay away from google drive.
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This is no different to gmail (in fact they might as well have just copy and pasted the scaremongering stories from back then) - all it means is they will target advertising based on your content. They can't actually do anything with your content like publish it.

"You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours."
 
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Em3bbs said:
This is no different to gmail (in fact they might as well have just copy and pasted the scaremongering stories from back then) - all it means is they will target advertising based on your content. They can't actually do anything with your content like publish it.

"You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours."
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When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to....publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content
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Whilst I agree that it's probably just to cover them for when they target advertising for you based on the content you've uploaded, you can see why people are concerned as they specifically say they are given a license to publish and publicly display any content you upload. (if that quote is correct)
 
It's exactly the same terms as for Gmail - it encompasses their entire platform. You own the intellectual property so they can't publish anything from what I've read.

Here:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57420402-93/the-google-drive-faq/?tag=mncol;txt

"For content that is yours, Google can't re-use it for its own purposes. But it can use content you upload in order to serve you."

I think the problem is that people are taking the one paragraph out of context, led on by scaremongering. Exactly the same thing happened with Gmail.
 
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That's fair enough, I'd only read that paragraph so in isolation it does sound concerning - along with the other part it's not really worrying at all though :)
 
Em3bbs said:
I think it's a fair assumption to say that Google will have enough bandwidth to cope with demand.
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I still think you are not getting my point. People are saying one system is better than the other basing said opinion solely on the size of the free storage and nothing else. I think this is being short sighted. The different products should be fully compared on all features and not just the free storage size...

Not sure how I can make this clearer :confused:
 
Well for me dropbox seems pretty much perfect for speed, UI and features (on both my One S and PC)

Just simply create a new folder, drag and drop files, photos etc. to that folder and that is it done and then if you want you can choose who has permission to the folder, also as soon as a photo, video is taken on your mobile, it will upload automatically (if you choose to have this option enabled).

Also this is the latest with dropbox:

http://www.neowin.net/news/dropbox-adds-web-based-link-sharing-to-stored-files

It doesn't get much simpler than that really :p
 
Current bandwidth limits really restrict just how much online storage you can realistically utilise, as others have said, no point having 1tb of online storage regardless of price if you have an upload of 50k/sec, so features is where it matters!
Dropbox certainly has the features at the moment and being able to get public links is a god send!, but its only a matter of time before Google/MS catchup and they have OS integration in there favour. I almost feel sorry for Dropbox
 
Richie said:
I still think you are not getting my point. People are saying one system is better than the other basing said opinion solely on the size of the free storage and nothing else. I think this is being short sighted. The different products should be fully compared on all features and not just the free storage size...

Not sure how I can make this clearer :confused:
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What features are you talking about though, any examples? I thought you've not even used cloud storage before? You need to make clear what 'show stoppers' you think there could be because no I'm not getting your point at the moment, sorry!
 
LizardKing said:
Current bandwidth limits really restrict just how much online storage you can realistically utilise, as others have said, no point having 1tb of online storage regardless of price if you have an upload of 50k/sec, so features is where it matters!
Dropbox certainly has the features at the moment and being able to get public links is a god send!, but its only a matter of time before Google/MS catchup and they have OS integration in there favour. I almost feel sorry for Dropbox
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that depends on how much content you generate after your inital upload, it may take a month to upload to TB but who cares if you then only create the odd doc or two that takes 4 mins to upload..?
 
This is stupid how most of us can't have this yet, have they learned nothing from the google+ launch?
 
Em3bbs said:
What features are you talking about though, any examples? I thought you've not even used cloud storage before? You need to make clear what 'show stoppers' you think there could be because no I'm not getting your point at the moment, sorry!
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I am not talking about specific features of GDrive or any other cloud storage system. My point is quite simple - Of all the posts surrounding this new service (or any cloud storage just now for that matter), the majority of the people seem to be looking at 1 factor and then coming to an opinion of one service being better than another i.e. how much space you get for free.

There is no mention of:

Support
Compatibility
Speeds
Device Integration

etc etc



The example I tried to give was this:

Imagine I setup a cloud storage system which offered 500GB of storage for free yet the infrastructure is so poor that upload speeds are restricted to 10Kbps or I restricted it to be used for Windows 7 only.

Using people's criteria above - my service would be amazing as it gave you HUGE free storage yet, when taking everything else into account, it is pretty pish...



Yes, effectively most people are happy just to use a cloud system as a big virtual drive but there may be other things to consider than just "how much free space do I get before I need to pay"

p.s. I HAVE used cloud storage before.





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LizardKing said:
Current bandwidth limits really restrict just how much online storage you can realistically utilise, as others have said, no point having 1tb of online storage regardless of price if you have an upload of 50k/sec, so features is where it matters!
Dropbox certainly has the features at the moment and being able to get public links is a god send!, but its only a matter of time before Google/MS catchup and they have OS integration in there favour. I almost feel sorry for Dropbox
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This is the kind of thing I am meaning. They all work slightly diff or have functions that are easier to use than others but people are only mentioning the free storage as a comparable measure.
 
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Richie said:
It seems to be people with Google App domains that have the problem. Using just a plain Google account should be fine.
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Seems that way. My two standard Google accounts have got access, but my two domain accounts are still waiting to be activated.
 
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