Google October 4th Event

Like I said I'm happy to wait upto max 6 months after release. Because I'm happy to have the better hardware (and useful software addons) to enjoy in the meantime.

OnePlus and Samsung have been pushing out these updates for a few months+ now.

The good thing about OnePlus is they are only pushing out only 1 phone per year and they can concentrate on that phone. Their OS/dev teams are finally merging and it's only going to getter from now on.
 
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In the disappointed camp too. My Nexus 6 is coming up for 2 years old and I would have loved to replace with another Google device but sadly the price is too much I think. One of the reasons I migrated from my iPhone 5S back to Android was becuase of handset price so I think I'll do everything I can to buy a cheaper handset. On this front the OP3 seems to be the clear winner. I will definitely miss the fast OS updates if I move away from Google phones.

Also some interesting points about the lack of decent Android tablets.
 
I've always said I'd be happy to pay a little more for stock Android, however that is just too much. If the phone had much smaller bezels (or at the very least off-screen buttons and a speaker) I'd have considered it if I wanted a new phone, but with the lacklustre design combined with that price it's a non-starter and still would be at £150-200 less.

Let's see what happens next year. If the phone truly bombs then they'll make some changes.

Either way, they're not going to compete with Apple overnight in terms of sales or reputation. The high price is meant to be an indicator of quality (whether that is actually the case is something else completely of course), and that reputation doesn't just happen, but is built over many years. The aim probably isn't even to ever compete with Apple in terms of sales, but merely to raise the perceived quality of Google as a brand.
 
kona786 said:
Like I said I'm happy to wait upto max 6 months after release. Because I'm happy to have the better hardware to enjoy in the meantime.

OnePlus and Samsung have been pushing out these updates for a few months+ now.

The good thing about OnePlus is they are only pushing out only 1 phone per year and they can concentrate on that phone. Their OS/dev teams are finally merging and it's only going to getter from now on.
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Yeah oneplus is certainly better than a lot of the OEM companies when it comes to updates but still you can't beat nexus/google phones for updates :p

It will certainly be interesting to see if the updates come quicker with the merge now though...
 
this_is_gav said:
I've always said I'd be happy to pay a little more for stock Android, however that is just too much. If the phone had much smaller bezels (or at the very least off-screen buttons and a speaker) I'd have considered it if I wanted a new phone, but with the lacklustre design combined with that price it's a non-starter and still would be at £150-200 less.
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Really don't get why they don't do off screen buttons, the bezel is always going to be there so may as well use that space than waste the bottom part of the screen.
 
mark43 said:
Really don't get why they don't do off screen buttons, the bezel is always going to be there so may as well use that space than waste the bottom part of the screen.
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If they are going to have on-screen buttons the bezel needs to be like on the Nexus 6 which is almost too small to have physical buttons - or have front facing stereo speakers. To have neither, IMO, makes this phone not premium, despite it's price tag claiming it to be.
 
Fubsy said:
If they are going to have on-screen buttons the bezel needs to be like on the Nexus 6 which is almost too small to have physical buttons - or have front facing stereo speakers. To have neither, IMO, makes this phone not premium, despite it's price tag claiming it to be.
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Yep exactly this.


Nexus 6 has small bezels and stereo speakers. A masterclass in design and packaging. OEM's don't know how to take a step forward without taking 2 steps back.
 
kona786 said:
Yep exactly this.


Nexus 6 has small bezels and stereo speakers. A masterclass in design and packaging. OEM's don't know how to take a step forward without taking 2 steps back.
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Bare in mind you have a LOT more real estate to play with when you have a chassis holding a 6 inch screen (as in all that stuff that's sat in the bezel area on most phones can fit behind the monstrous screen area).
 
Rimsy said:
Bare in mind you have a LOT more real estate to play with when you have a chassis holding a 6 inch screen (as in all that stuff that's sat in the bezel area on most phones can fit behind the monstrous screen area).
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Nope. The moto x gen 2 was 5.2" and had the same setup as the Nexus 6.

Also make the phone a bit thicker if you need space, not the bezels bigger.
 
Where is the progress? The screens are getting smaller and the bezels getting bigger. Why would I want to downgrade to that?!

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Makes it even worse when I put them all side by side.

Morons.
 
The above surely is wrong. The 7 Plus and Pixel XL clearly don't have the same screen size there.
 
sesevans said:
@AndyCR15

Thinking about your comments of Echo v Google Home, I agree that Home is likely to be the better device and I appreciate your concern about Google getting it right in the UK over the next number of months.
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Just to be clear, it's more about them having the integration with services in the UK. As I say, I know Google Home will be better, but things need to link in. Booking a table at a restaurant might be easy in the US as everything uses OpenTable. Do they in the UK? I've never heard of anyone using it. Google Home wont therefor be able to do the sequence they showed in the video.

The Echo is still rather limited in the UK as they need to set up the integration with other apps and services. Some might be simply not possible in the UK. We'll have to wait and see.

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I am excited about increasingly handing off tasks to Google Assistant and expect to be an early buyer of Google Home.
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Based on what I just said, I'll be really interested to know how much of the service you can use in the UK.
 
I feel so annoyed that I want to buy this phone, purely because it supports EE WiFi Calling and VoLTE and it will get updates quickly.

It's really sad that this expensive phone is the only choice we have for updates that will last two years. iPhone is less in many cases and will last a lot longer :(
 
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@AndyCr15

Thinking about your comments of Echo v Google Home, I agree that Home is likely to be the better device and I appreciate your concern about Google getting it right in the UK over the next number of months.
Just to be clear, it's more about them having the integration with services in the UK. As I say, I know Google Home will be better, but things need to link in. Booking a table at a restaurant might be easy in the US as everything uses OpenTable. Do they in the UK? I've never heard of anyone using it. Google Home wont therefor be able to do the sequence they showed in the video.

The Echo is still rather limited in the UK as they need to set up the integration with other apps and services. Some might be simply not possible in the UK. We'll have to wait and see.

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I am excited about increasingly handing off tasks to Google Assistant and expect to be an early buyer of Google Home.
Based on what I just said, I'll be really interested to know how much of the service you can use in the UK.

@AndyCr15
Completely agree with your assessment that we are in a wait and see mode for the Google Home UK launch. I am keen to see them succeed here as it would seem to be a clear value add for my work and play. Negotiations with potential partners here is clearly underway.

I think this link two days ago from pcadvisor.co.uk is a good summary of what we know so far about both the US launch, their intentions to bring in more and more partners and their UK launch. So far there is no definitive UK launch date, merely a "soon we hope" mentioned in the comment section of this link:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-prod...uk-release-date-price-features-specs-3640527/

Chromecast appears to have been successfully launched in the UK and Home is seen by the author in the link as a means of leveraging what they have achieved. The same Chromecast team worked on Home at Google.

This link from Variety in May 2016 is what got me very excited about Home:

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/why-google-home-much-more-just-amazon-echo-000413977.html

Here's hoping that Home will be out soon here to offer you another choice to your Echo.
 
I think people are missing the point. This phone is not for nerds, its for the masses. I think as long as it feels decent, has decent battery life and a solid camera not much else matters outside of marketing the phone correctly. If google nails the marketing I think it will be a relatively successful smartphone. A lot of the issues raised here really don't matter too the masses.
 
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