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Gordon Does Good

By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: October 12, 2008

Has Gordon Brown, the British prime minister, saved the world financial system?

O.K., the question is premature — we still don’t know the exact shape of the planned financial rescues in Europe or for that matter the United States, let alone whether they’ll really work. What we do know, however, is that Mr. Brown and Alistair Darling, the chancellor of the Exchequer (equivalent to our Treasury secretary), have defined the character of the worldwide rescue effort, with other wealthy nations playing catch-up.

This is an unexpected turn of events. The British government is, after all, very much a junior partner when it comes to world economic affairs. It’s true that London is one of the world’s great financial centers, but the British economy is far smaller than the U.S. economy, and the Bank of England doesn’t have anything like the influence either of the Federal Reserve or of the European Central Bank. So you don’t expect to see Britain playing a leadership role.

But the Brown government has shown itself willing to think clearly about the financial crisis, and act quickly on its conclusions. And this combination of clarity and decisiveness hasn’t been matched by any other Western government, least of all our own.

What is the nature of the crisis? The details can be insanely complex, but the basics are fairly simple. The bursting of the housing bubble has led to large losses for anyone who bought assets backed by mortgage payments; these losses have left many financial institutions with too much debt and too little capital to provide the credit the economy needs; troubled financial institutions have tried to meet their debts and increase their capital by selling assets, but this has driven asset prices down, reducing their capital even further.

What can be done to stem the crisis? Aid to homeowners, though desirable, can’t prevent large losses on bad loans, and in any case will take effect too slowly to help in the current panic. The natural thing to do, then — and the solution adopted in many previous financial crises — is to deal with the problem of inadequate financial capital by having governments provide financial institutions with more capital in return for a share of ownership.

This sort of temporary part-nationalization, which is often referred to as an “equity injection,” is the crisis solution advocated by many economists — and sources told The Times that it was also the solution privately favored by Ben Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman.

But when Henry Paulson, the U.S. Treasury secretary, announced his plan for a $700 billion financial bailout, he rejected this obvious path, saying, “That’s what you do when you have failure.” Instead, he called for government purchases of toxic mortgage-backed securities, based on the theory that ... actually, it never was clear what his theory was.

Meanwhile, the British government went straight to the heart of the problem — and moved to address it with stunning speed. On Wednesday, Mr. Brown’s officials announced a plan for major equity injections into British banks, backed up by guarantees on bank debt that should get lending among banks, a crucial part of the financial mechanism, running again. And the first major commitment of funds will come on Monday — five days after the plan’s announcement.

At a special European summit meeting on Sunday, the major economies of continental Europe in effect declared themselves ready to follow Britain’s lead, injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into banks while guaranteeing their debts. And whaddya know, Mr. Paulson — after arguably wasting several precious weeks — has also reversed course, and now plans to buy equity stakes rather than bad mortgage securities (although he still seems to be moving with painful slowness).

As I said, we still don’t know whether these moves will work. But policy is, finally, being driven by a clear view of what needs to be done. Which raises the question, why did that clear view have to come from London rather than Washington?

It’s hard to avoid the sense that Mr. Paulson’s initial response was distorted by ideology. Remember, he works for an administration whose philosophy of government can be summed up as “private good, public bad,” which must have made it hard to face up to the need for partial government ownership of the financial sector.

I also wonder how much the Femafication of government under President Bush contributed to Mr. Paulson’s fumble. All across the executive branch, knowledgeable professionals have been driven out; there may not have been anyone left at Treasury with the stature and background to tell Mr. Paulson that he wasn’t making sense.

Luckily for the world economy, however, Gordon Brown and his officials are making sense. And they may have shown us the way through this crisis.

Paul Krugman who won the Nobel Prize for economics today, is claiming that Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling (and I'm sure lots of economists working for them) have come up with the best idea to jumpstart interbank lending. Who will give Gordon Brown credit for this?
 
Brown copied the idea from the Americans. They used it in the 1930's depression.

Most countries were prepared to use it, but as a last resort.

The problem is not over until the government deems it has been fixed AND sells their shares in the banks. This will be years, possibly up to a decade. The government will want to sell the shares when the banks are raking the money in again. Although given that Gordon Brown was so happy to sell half of this country's gold reserves when the gold market was at a 25 year low it would not surprise me if he sold them earlier than that.
 
This sounds like a load of Labour PR bull****, "I have saved the world", said Gordo, "Please vote for me at the next election". ;)
 
I'm not going to rate him on this move. It was a pretty obvious one, unless he wanted to let the economy sink. Also it's not his money that he's spending.

I will rate him on the measures he takes to prevent this happening again in terms of the running of the banks and stocks themselves.
 
I'd be prepared to give him credit if he hadn't let the economy get into that state in the first place with massive national borrowing.

Fixing (and no one's sure it's going to work yet) a problem you helped create doesn't make you a hero.
 
So if the gov, has lots of bank shares, they get dividends when they start perfoming well again? So they wont have to tax as much due to this?
 
Brown copied the idea from the Americans. They used it in the 1930's depression.

Of course. This isn't exactly an original idea. In fact these type of things are done by large investors all the time. Look at Warren Buffet and Goldman Sachs.

Most countries were prepared to use it, but as a last resort.

Yes, but is buying $700bn of toxic assets a better option? The potential upside on this would have been very difficult to achieve. You are second guessing the market.

The problem is not over until the government deems it has been fixed AND sells their shares in the banks.

Again, the issue is whether this can actually rebuild confidence in these banks. The terms of this deal has actually resulted in falls in the shares of the firms involved. Again, you could argue that the government is second guessing the market. At least now you arent having to purchase assets for which no one has any idea of their value. You purchase preferred shares and underwrite others for which you could argue the downside risk is lower. It will take a long time for the governments around europe to actually sell theiur shares in these banks.
 
Shame it won't work and in a week's time we will be back to square one, I hope I am wrong. More worryingly, they will keep messing about whilst denying the underlying fact that the world's banking system is fundamentally flawed. Those in power are either unbelievably naive or are deliberately allowing the system to continue for their own ends. Brown is a puppet, he is certainly a muppet!

Hate is a strong word and I rarely use it but with these idiots I make an exception. I absolutely detest Brown and all of his Labour slugs, they have ruined this country and, in conjunction with the retard across the pond, screwed the world up good and proper.

:mad: :(
 
Joseph, sorry Gordon will be claiming credit for someone else's idea.

It's his fault we're in this mess. "His" "prudent" deregulation of the financial sector seemed like a decent idea in 1997, unfortunately the bankers got greedy...
 
I'd be prepared to give him credit if he hadn't let the economy get into that state in the first place with massive national borrowing.

Fixing (and no one's sure it's going to work yet) a problem you helped create doesn't make you a hero.

What has national borrowing got to do with this? (By national I mean governmental borrowing). There are many countries around the world with terrible government debt rates but haven suffered problems like this. I don't see the correlation.

As for preventing and identifying a bubble, it is one of the most difficult things to do. If a bubble could truly be identified then market efficiency would immediately cause a correction.

As Ben Bernanke actually gave a speech on this debate a while ago:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/BoardDocs/Speeches/2002/20021015/default.htm

Identifying a bubble in progress is intrinsically difficult. Though the price of (say) a share of stock is readily observable, the corresponding fundamentals--such as the dividends that investors expect to receive and the risk premium that they require to hold the stock--are generally not observable, even after the fact.

I agree with him entirely on this topic.

Please read the link, it is a very good speech. The people that generally believe bubbles can be protected are those which believe in a floating interest rate leaving it to market forces as this should always be the most efficient outcome. but giving up monetary policy like this could have unpredictable outcomes and actually result in a more unstable business cycle if you believe in certain market failures.
 
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