Gordon Does Good

[Pilky01]

We need another Thatcher.

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

Pretty much this. How did we come to the point where we choose our leaders based on who we think will cause the least damage?

We've a long history of voting politicians out of power rather than voting them in!

 

[AJUK]

Well I think it has been well publicised about both the parties feeling towards the ethnic minorities. Need I say more?

Yes, because you are utterly wrong about UKIP's attitude towards ethnic minorities. You are a typically confusing immigration controls with racism.

In brief:

UKIP's website
UKIP will leave the political EU and trade globally and freely. We will re-embrace today’s fast-growing Commonwealth and we will encourage UK manufacturing so that we make things again.

We will freeze immigration for five years, speed up deportation of up to a million illegal immigrants by tripling the numbers engaged in deportations, and have ‘no home no visa’ work permits to ease the housing crisis.

We will have a grammar school in every town. We will restore standards of education and improve skills training. Student grants will replace student loans.

We will radically reform the working of the NHS with an Insurance Fund, whilst upholding the ‘free at the point of care’ principles. We will bring back matrons and have locally run, clean hospitals.

We will give people the vote on policing priorities, go back to proper beat policing and scrap the Human Rights Act. We will have sentences that mean what they say.

We will take 4.5 million people out of tax with a simple Flat Tax (with National Insurance) starting at £10,000. We will scrap Inheritance Tax, not just reform it and cut corporation taxes.

We will say No to green taxes and wind farms. To avert a major energy crisis, we will go for new nuclear power plants on the same existing site facilities and for clean coal. We will reduce pollution and encourage recycling.

We will make welfare simpler and fairer, introduce ‘workfare’ to get people back to work, and a new citizens pension and private pensions scheme insurance.

We will support our armed forces with more spending on equipment, military homes and medical care. We will save our threatened warships and add 25,000 more troops.

We will be fair to England, with an English Parliament of English MPs at Westminster. We will replace assembly members like MSPs with MPs. And we will promote referenda at local and national levels.

We will make customer satisfaction number one for rail firms – not cost cutting and will look seriously at reopening some rail lines that Beeching closed. We will make foreign lorries pay for British roads with a ‘Britdisc’ – and we will stop persecuting motorists.

Last, but never least, we will bring in fair prices and fair competition for our suffering farmers, and restore traditional British fishing and territorial waters.

All very sensible in my opinion.

 

[Meridian]

All very sensible in my opinion.

Reading that lot, a better name for the party might be The Rose-Tinted Spectacles Party. Let's kick off with:

We will have a grammar school in every town.

They seem to have forgotten that the Middle Classes went right off grammer schools when they realised that there was no correlation between class and intelligence, and just because daddy was a GP, it was no guarantee that young Tarquin wasn't going to secondary modern. Combine this with the fact that SMs were widely seen as schools for failures, and middle class support slowly eroded to near-nothing. But that was so long ago that UKIP think that the middle classes will again assume that only nice middle-class children will go to GS, along with a few token bright, but suitably appreciative, working class kids. They assume that all the pleb children will be safely corralled in the SMs and thus out of sight and out of mind. And of course, learning their place.

The policies of UKIP have always struck me as aimed at people too old to support the Conservatives.


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[Monkey Puzzle]

They seem to have forgotten that the Middle Classes went right off grammer schools when they realised that there was no correlation between class and intelligence,

Though it sounds very PC, that's just not true.

http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2008/05/social-class-iq-differences-and.html

If you have access to journals see:

http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/18/1/180

or

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...d=126524&md5=d48505b077f3a0810050068e5bb5c6e9

 

[JamesU2005]

Yes, because you are utterly wrong about UKIP's attitude towards ethnic minorities. You are a typically confusing immigration controls with racism.

In brief:



All very sensible in my opinion.

They are hardly going to publicise their true opinions on their own website would they? I don't think they are that stupid!

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

Yes, because you are utterly wrong about UKIP's attitude towards ethnic minorities. You are a typically confusing immigration controls with racism.

In brief: Leave EU, and be racist.



All very sensible in my opinion.

Except the leaving the EU bit, which would shaft us.

 

[blaze of glory]

Except the leaving the EU bit, which would shaft us.

Yes at a cost of 25 million a day going mainly boost Eastern European economies membership is a bargain