GordyR's Beginners Guide to Bodybuilding

god yes, there are some people that hit the sweet spot when training and can gain some serious mass. however, its likely that those same people will also gain a lot of fat at the same time.

If i could lose fat like i gain mass then my god i would be a pro bodybuilder haha.
 
3. You need plenty of protein. You should try to eat at least 1 to 1.5g of protein for every lb you weigh. If you weigh 170 lbs then you should be eating between 170-200 grams of protein each day. Some people do not need quite this much; by all means adjust to suit yourself as you begin to learn your own body’s requirements.
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I am worrying about how i am going to keep to the above...i am going to start going to the gym for the very first time (Will post a thread later) and i have started to look at my diet. Upon looking at a few items on the shelves, it seems i need to eat 132g of protein...chicken seems to be a good one with 25g or so per breast but what can go with it? I can focus on the 'main' meats but unsure about how to partner it. Reason being, i read a thread recently about carbohydrates and how too much isn't very good for you?

/confused.
 
SideWinder said:
Upon looking at a few items on the shelves, it seems i need to eat 132g of protein...chicken seems to be a good one with 25g or so per breast but what can go with it? I can focus on the 'main' meats but unsure about how to partner it. Reason being, i read a thread recently about carbohydrates and how too much isn't very good for you?

/confused.
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Turkey is very good, if not better than chicken (less fatty, and tends to be cheaper).


When you talk about partnering it, what exactly are you after? Guess your talking veg/carbs...

Sam C
 
Yes,veg and so on,best food to go with the main protein? Looking at food labels,gammon seems like a good one to go for as well.
Just researching and preparing for when i go to the gym for the first time in September.
 
Rich_L said:
Tuna and other seafood/fish is basically just protein too :)
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Not a huge fan of fish...i do like salmon though. How does cod in batter fair out? Not so good i'm guessing due to the batter but still worth 'eating' so to speak?

samcat said:
You dont have to wait until you start the gym to start eating properly...
As for veg etc, variety is the key... Stops you getting board of eating the same thing day in day out, and provides a broad range of vits/minerals..


Sam C
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Mm. I don't have access to a gym just yet but i am researching into how i need to adapt my diet and seeing if i am actually taking in enough protein. I work on a checkout so i check most items out of curiousity...seems most steak/chicken is around 18g-29g of protein per 100g. :)

I'm not a huge fan of veg...i need to dig out a thread Gilly created about it as he too is fussy! :p

Carrots are the only veg i really like but salad i am much better. :o

Makunouchi said:
You cant really eat massive amounts of pork in the same way you can with chicken, pig has a lot more of the nasty fatty colestoral (sp?) in it.
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Ah okay. So perhaps once a week? :)
 
Slightly confused

I haven't read the whole thread so if it's been asked before then tell me and I'll search through for it ...

I'm 6'5" and 110kg (17 stone something) and I'm looking at getting a concept2 rower to get fit and lose weight. I also want to start doing the weights again when I buy a weight bench for the garage.

From reading the op it seems to be one or the other, you either put on muscle or you lose weight, is there no way to combine this?

I don't want to put on masses of muscle but I want to lose my gut and add a bit of shape, I'm more on the slim boned side but not thin & weak at all.

What would be the best way to combine all this as my main aim is to get fit, lose my gut and become more active & healthy (healthy eating is starting now, growing my own veg soon). Is doing weights without all the protein & bulking a waste of time?
 
TheBrooder said:
I haven't read the whole thread so if it's been asked before then tell me and I'll search through for it ...

I'm 6'5" and 110kg (17 stone something) and I'm looking at getting a concept2 rower to get fit and lose weight. I also want to start doing the weights again when I buy a weight bench for the garage.

From reading the op it seems to be one or the other, you either put on muscle or you lose weight, is there no way to combine this?

I don't want to put on masses of muscle but I want to lose my gut and add a bit of shape, I'm more on the slim boned side but not thin & weak at all.

What would be the best way to combine all this as my main aim is to get fit, lose my gut and become more active & healthy (healthy eating is starting now, growing my own veg soon). Is doing weights without all the protein & bulking a waste of time?
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Protein you are able to get from solid food, eggs, fish, meat, and so on ...so no need to supplement.

As for your goal i think your better of doing cut first and then start weights, although with only a bench your gains will be minimal.
 
Good thread. Ive been doing wights for nearly 2 years now, but i just did a full body workout every other day which is what the trainer who done my induction said was best. It gave me some good results, from about 9-10 st to 12.5st now. Last few months i noticed i was not really getting anywhere so decided to change it up, doing the basic 3 day split now. Made me realise how much id been neglecting my legs lol.

Lunges ***!
 
Hi all,

After some advice.

I used to be a big lifter around 10-12 years ago although gave it up when it became a bit of an obsession.

I've retained some of the size and strength from that time. I'm 37 and currently sitting at roughly 200lbs at 5'11". I have an excess of fat as you would expect but but also still a fair bit of muscular size and strength.

I'm looking at getting back into the swing (although less obsessively) and I almost feel as though I'm working backwards this time. I'm not sure at my weight if I should still be bulking up or looking to retain the weight I'm currently at while losing some fat and building more muscle.

Any opinions much appreciated.
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
do not bulk if your fat. ALWAYS cut first. I made that mistake and its taken me ages to get down near a weight im happy with and i wasted a lot of muscle in the process.
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I just finished my first cut and I would agree with this - you need to think about how you're gonna feel/look in the process of doing what you're doing.

Do you want to be fatter than you are now at any point? If not, then cut.
 
neo202020 said:
I just finished my first cut and I would agree with this - you need to think about how you're gonna feel/look in the process of doing what you're doing.

Do you want to be fatter than you are now at any point? If not, then cut.
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yeah thats it. Ive had to deal with the (surprisingly) difficult psychological implications of getting smaller. Truth is there aint no point being big if you look tubby. People see me with my top off and think big bloke but they aint impressed because i got fat on my stomach and hips. Truth is i got the musculature of any of the cast of 300 but you dont see it without losing the weight first.

Fact is that a cut down guy half the size of a bulkier bloke will look far more impressive. I mean im 220lbs which is the same weight as many pro BB'ers. But that being the case where are my 36" thighs? 22" guns? Nowhere because although ive got a 'flat' stomach and would hardly get called fat (cept on here anyway) im carrying a good 20+lbs of fat. At least 10lbs too much to look good.

Cut down then build up, that way you avoid the difficulty of watching your gains diminish as you diet down. Getting down from a chubby level to a cut physique is very demanding psychologically anyway, it'll only be worse if you've bulked beforehand. And besides if you cant control your diet enough to slim you will never have the dedication to bulk up properly anyway
 
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