GordyR's Beginners Guide to Bodybuilding
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Looking for an answer from an expert or someone who knows there stuff.
I know theres already a thread on this but it seems too far into it, like I don't want to look like the strongest man in the world lol, so I don't want to take any pills for building massive muscles.
Just "tone" up. Basically I did before but then had a serious illness and then really all the muscles on my stomach kind of went loose or something and its now sort of looks like fat in a way, my arms aren't to bad just same story loose muscle I guess well thats what the doctor said, because I didn't exercise for such a long time it just goes relaxed, loose. If anyone can clarify that.
Yeah so I've got the right body size for weight lifting don't worry about that, 6'3 and big (not fat, just like wide shoulder to shoulder span). Legs were always strong as well and seem to be fine but no point in focusing on just one part as I've learned from that other thread. So if anyone gets what im trying to say what do you reconmend at the gym? cause I gotta start going again.
Anything appreciated, thanks.
I know theres already a thread on this but it seems too far into it, like I don't want to look like the strongest man in the world lol, so I don't want to take any pills for building massive muscles.
Just "tone" up. Basically I did before but then had a serious illness and then really all the muscles on my stomach kind of went loose or something and its now sort of looks like fat in a way, my arms aren't to bad just same story loose muscle I guess well thats what the doctor said, because I didn't exercise for such a long time it just goes relaxed, loose. If anyone can clarify that.
Yeah so I've got the right body size for weight lifting don't worry about that, 6'3 and big (not fat, just like wide shoulder to shoulder span). Legs were always strong as well and seem to be fine but no point in focusing on just one part as I've learned from that other thread. So if anyone gets what im trying to say what do you reconmend at the gym? cause I gotta start going again.
Anything appreciated, thanks.
Macabre said:
As Gordry posted...
GordyR said:
You really need to read his guide, it's obvious you haven't or you would realise he is not asking you to take pills.
Do some research and read the information available, don't just rely on others to do it for you.
"Nah m8 just wanted someone to set an appropriate routine for me. I know he isn't but his is more like extensive body building for serious body builders."
Okay so I kind of exagerrated the pills, sorry. But changing diets etc as well like don't eat this but that etc.
Okay so I kind of exagerrated the pills, sorry. But changing diets etc as well like don't eat this but that etc.
Macabre said:
Yeah... that's how you lose fat and gain muscle. You can just adapt his diet and instructions to suit your own needs. Just go to a gym, tell them what you want to achieve, and get a fitness plan.
You sound like you're expecting your muscle to magically re-appear... sorry mate but it doesn't work like that you actually have to put effort into it.
Your inner stomach muscles might be quite weak after such a long period of inactivity which would explain why your gut looks fat without actually being inches of blubber. You can look up some exercises to help counter that. Try somewhere like www.t-nation.com. There's a lot of hardcore "pill-eating" bodybuilders there but routines to sort almost any needs.
Maybe start off here
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=169ab2
Maybe start off here
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=169ab2
^K, cheers. Well I'll ask for a fitness plan, but like I said im no expert, but for a pic heres one off google:
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/IGS/IGS402/IS569-077.jpg
I don't know what that looks like side on but from the front its similar to the same shape as mine, except that dude has like more fat.
I really don't have a picture, and that ain't a good way to show no, but im just trying to give you an idea, thats not accurate, but again its hard to define what exactly it is thats my problem. Loose muscle is a definate, and im not in denial if im overweight or not, chances are in 2 years the other dude is right I have no doubt put on "inches" not really weight though. Im willing to do it, its just I don't really have a clue what to do.
A year ago I used my m8s bench press but I must have been doing it all wrong I did it 3 or 4 times a week but it wasn't really accurate, but I'll ask an instructor and hopefully get something sorted, better sooner then later.
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/IGS/IGS402/IS569-077.jpg
I don't know what that looks like side on but from the front its similar to the same shape as mine, except that dude has like more fat.
I really don't have a picture, and that ain't a good way to show no, but im just trying to give you an idea, thats not accurate, but again its hard to define what exactly it is thats my problem. Loose muscle is a definate, and im not in denial if im overweight or not, chances are in 2 years the other dude is right I have no doubt put on "inches" not really weight though. Im willing to do it, its just I don't really have a clue what to do.
A year ago I used my m8s bench press but I must have been doing it all wrong I did it 3 or 4 times a week but it wasn't really accurate, but I'll ask an instructor and hopefully get something sorted, better sooner then later.
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To start off with you should try and read some articles on bodybuilding. I know you don't want to turn into this guy
But he didn't start off that musclely. Bench pressing 4x a week won't really get you anywhere, just as doing bicep curls 24/7 won't either.
Why not start off on this program, if you have gym access. Many of these exercises can be replicated at home though.
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=body_130dawg
Stick to it for about 6-8 weeks, maybe adding some cardio if you feel you have to, but I'd say about 30 minutes twice a week is enough. You should hopefully see some nice progress.
But he didn't start off that musclely. Bench pressing 4x a week won't really get you anywhere, just as doing bicep curls 24/7 won't either.
Why not start off on this program, if you have gym access. Many of these exercises can be replicated at home though.
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=body_130dawg
Stick to it for about 6-8 weeks, maybe adding some cardio if you feel you have to, but I'd say about 30 minutes twice a week is enough. You should hopefully see some nice progress.
Hi all, ive been doing a bill star type routine for a while now and ive got good strenth gains, but in terms of mass gaining ive hit a brick wall really. Im thinking of starting a westside for skinny ******** type routine and wondered if you could check its ok for me. ta.
Monday
Bench press – 1x5 (max effort lift, meant to rotate this ever few weeks or something, any ideas what to?)
Inc DB Presses – 3x10
Bent over BB rows – 4x10
Bent over Rear Delt Flyes – 3x12
Wednesday
Squats – 5x5
Lunges – 3x10
Stiff Leg Deadlifts – 3x10
Wrist curls – 3x8
Friday
Bench Press – 3x max @ 60kg
Skull Crushers – 3x10
Chins – 4x8
Curls – 3x8
DB shrugs – 3x10
heres the link if your interested: http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm#top
Monday
Bench press – 1x5 (max effort lift, meant to rotate this ever few weeks or something, any ideas what to?)
Inc DB Presses – 3x10
Bent over BB rows – 4x10
Bent over Rear Delt Flyes – 3x12
Wednesday
Squats – 5x5
Lunges – 3x10
Stiff Leg Deadlifts – 3x10
Wrist curls – 3x8
Friday
Bench Press – 3x max @ 60kg
Skull Crushers – 3x10
Chins – 4x8
Curls – 3x8
DB shrugs – 3x10
heres the link if your interested: http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm#top
Couldn't decide whether or not to start a new thread, so just put this here.
Ordered some L-glutamine, ground oats and flax seed powder from myprotien.
I was thinking of taking :
5g L-glutamine
5g Flax seed powder
30g whey
70g oats
As a morning shake, does this sound okay?
Also, will it need blended?, i tried to make that combo thier and was left with a fair bit of powder at the bottom of my shaker
Ordered some L-glutamine, ground oats and flax seed powder from myprotien.
I was thinking of taking :
5g L-glutamine
5g Flax seed powder
30g whey
70g oats
As a morning shake, does this sound okay?
Also, will it need blended?, i tried to make that combo thier and was left with a fair bit of powder at the bottom of my shaker
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I'd say cut, and carry on with the routine, otherwise you'll lose a lot of muscle.
bolger said:Read the first page of this topic and it will tell you all you need to know.
Now can anyone answer my question a few posts up please?
70g is roughly 40-50g carbs, 30g of whey is fine, 5g Flax is fine (I take 5ml of oil), glutamine sounds fine.
With the oats, it's really going on your overall size and what stage your at in your routine. Bulk, Cut? and what are your stats?
EDIT: Looking back through my journals, 70g of oats is less than I was taking at this stage. So my original post here, stateing that 70g is "quite a lot" is innacurate and I shall change this.
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