Got sacked from job - no warnings or whatnot

So, basically our OP didn't turn up to work, lied about why, got caught and is now upset he doesn't have his job anymore.

Have I missed something?
 
Belloni said:
Hi, worked at a photocopier company but on friday got sacked.

It was always a filler job no matter what, as i can't stand the work they do, but anyways;

Basically, on friday i had another thing to attend, for another company i was looking to work for. This company needed me to be at an event from 10-2pm to which i said yes.

However, on the thursday night, (the event was on friday) i completely forgot that day to tell work that i wouldn't be in for whatever reason, so on thursdays work always gets a tab at our local bar, to which we go to. I was driving as always to make it easier to go home etc. However, when out, around 10:40pm i text my boss, as i forgot earlier that day to say i wasn't going to be in, an excuse, yes it's a crap excuse but i used the "i've got a funeral tomorrow" i couldn't think of anything else at the time and obviously didn't want to say about another job prospect.

Anyways, go into work around 3pm after the other thing, 10 minutes later get brought into the boardroom, i could instantly tell he wasn't happy and the office was tense anyways, he basically just swore at me etc. He thinks i went out drinking and was hung over so i was late, but even when i am hungover, i still go in at 9am, why would i bother to go in at 3pm on a friday. So yeah, i was high on caffeine and when pressured into was i actually at a funeral i just said no i wasn't in the end, to which he said "get your stuff and **** off"

Do i have any grounds?! All my friends keep saying it's unfair dismissal as companies can't just sack you there and then now? Is this true, and the way the company worked, i was technically "self-employed".
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Companies have a right to instantly dismiss you for gross misconduct
 
Mr Jack said:
So, basically our OP didn't turn up to work, lied about why, got caught and is now upset he doesn't have his job anymore.

Have I missed something?
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Again, i didn't say i was upset, i was just curious.

I don't care about the job, it's not my lifes ambition to sell photocopiers.
 
You lied about why you weren't going to be able to turn up and do the job you're paid to do, and then wonder why you've been sacked?

If you want a day off work take it as leave!
 
Pudney said:
Actually you're talking the "poop". Unfair dismissal protection comes after 12 months except for automatic unfair dismissal such as discrimination. This means no tribunal protection.

Also the "probation" concept is a myth from a statutory rights point of view, you have the same legal rights after 1 month as you do at 10. Less than a month is different however.
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I came in to say this and to pedantically correct, unfair dismissal protection comes in a 51 weeks as employees are given a minimum one weeks notice.

If you have been in your job less than one year then they can sack you for any reason apart from statutory protected areas, race, age, sex etc. Oh yeah and if you are pregnant it all gets very messy.
 
'Wes said:
No, you were in the wrong, i wouldn't say unfair dismissal.
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Indeed, you have grounds for an awful reference.
First you skipped work, looking for other employment.
Then you lied to the boss about your reasons.
If you'd texted me at 11pm at night after a night with the crew, I'd have probably been rather irritated too.
 
Who remembers they've got a funeral to go to the next day, at 10:40pm the night before? no one, that's who. Terrible liar is terrible.
 
Ring Peace said:
I came in to say this and to pedantically correct, unfair dismissal protection comes in a 51 weeks as employees are given a minimum one weeks notice.

If you have been in your job less than one year then they can sack you for any reason apart from statutory protected areas, race, age, sex etc. Oh yeah and if you are pregnant it all gets very messy.
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Thsi is absoloutely my understanding and I've had to get rid of many people in their first year without issue.

Bilbocard said:
Have you been warned before. In England we have the three strikes rule.

First warning: verbal, you have so many months to improve

Second warning: verbal, you have so many months to improve under supervision from a senior member of staff

Third warning: failure to improve can lead to dismissal

However, lying to your boss is grounds for dismissal.
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I'm not sure that the three strikes rule is law. I think it is a policy many adopt, but as you allude to in your final sentence, we do have a legal principle of gross misconduct for which you can be summarily dismissed. In this instance I suspect the employer can argue gross misconduct when OP admitted to lying.

To the OP, whatever the rights and wrongs it seems to me in this instance move on and put it behind you if you can. I suspect reconciliation and a reference from these people would be the best outcome in the long run for you.
 
"Hi boss, know it's late but I have been sat on the bog all night, not feeling the greatest, just thought I would give you a heads up incase I am not well enough to come in tomorrow so you can get someone to cover. I will let you know first thing in the morning. Thanks"

"Morning boss, sorry it's early, just wanted to catch you before the shifts start, I won't be making it in this morning, not had any sleep at all, sorry to dissapoint."

*you rock up at 3pm*

"Yea boss, think it must have been one of those 24 hour things, had some lunch, managed to keep it down, so figured I would come in and ease off the workload for the last couple of hours as a thanks for helping me out"

Job done :)
 
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Belloni said:
another company i was looking to work for. This company needed me to be at an event from 10-2pm[\QUOTE]

YOU attended something for another company, and YOU forgot, sounds to me like YOU ****** up and probably should have booked the day as holiday well in advance.

In your defense, it does seem like a pretty un-legal way to get rid of you, don't you have to get letters and stuff first
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Jay794 said:
Belloni said:
another company i was looking to work for. This company needed me to be at an event from 10-2pm[\QUOTE]

YOU attended something for another company, and YOU forgot, sounds to me like YOU ****** up and probably should have booked the day as holiday well in advance.

In your defense, it does seem like a pretty un-legal way to get rid of you, don't you have to get letters and stuff first
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Technicaly yes, there should have been a letter informing him of disciplinary action, followed by a meeting where he would be sacked for gross misconduct.
Although if be was 'contracting' that may not apply.

The net result is the same as he lied about taking time off.

In future keep it simple, as others have said 'stomach bug' .
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