Having just sold my perfectly decent 3080 I'd highly recommend one of those for ~£500 or even better a 3090 FE for ~£750. Though it looks like you don't have access to the Members Market yet.
As for a PSU a 850W is more than enough for a 3080 and just fine for my replacement 4080 FE as it uses less power than the 3080 (or the same with no undervolt).
Your 650w PSU is good quality. I used to have the exact same one and it ran my 3080 FE no problem. If the GPU needs over 350w then I would consider upgrading. Otherwise you're probably fine with what you have, especially as your CPU does not draw a lot of power.
Your 2080 Super is a great card also. Unless you're genuinely unhappy with it's performance I wouldn't bother upgrading. Do you have a budget for the upgrade? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere in the thread.
I'd get the rm1000x over that.. the e isn't as good even though newer...comes with a 7yrs warranty. I'd look for those with a 10yrs warranty , and seen the rm1000x for same price as the e version..actually, slightly cheaper.
If you're going for a 4000 series nvidia card you could look at one with the new connector for the gpu, then you don't have to deal with the spaghetti Western of the adapter cable
As to gpu, yup, new gen are expensive, in line with 3000 series card so you end up paying more for more fps so fairly linear..the 4070ti is an excellent 1440p card though..4k gets crimped a bit due to bandwidth..
Actually best value of the new gen so far I think..watch hardware unboxed..near top for price per frame.
I just went back and checked 1440p 16 game av for 4070ti was152fps,1%low124. the 7900xt was 158/130..comapre to 3090ti and 6950xt of 145/119 and 145/116, and the 3080 10gb of 119/96. At 4k you're withing 3% of a 3090ti and just above a 6950xt
so 2 ways of looking at it. either you go it's massively expensive compared to the 3070ti it replaces, or you go it beats a 3090ti, which was massively more expensive when launched. i look at it as it outperforms a 3080 by 28% at 1440p, and the 3080 was the best performance for price for higher end gpu last gen..and yes 3080fe is £650 but that was an fe, aib were far more expensive, and saying last year with crypto was exceptional..well it was, i saw a 3080 gor for over £2k at one stage on fleabay, and plenty of people on this forum paying over £2k for a 3090..was actually one person saying how bad a 4070ti was and he had a 3090ti in his sig..if £800 so bad for 3090ti performance, why shell out so much more for a 3090ti then. I try to not look at the name and just see what performance you get. Depressing otherwise as hardly a new generation price/performance upgrade, but 4070ti best so far
I'm not saying buy a 4070ti, but if your in the market for a powerful 1440p and don't mind paying the price, there aren't that many alternatives..if you can get a 6950xt at a good price, will be a good alternative, though up to you whether you want dlss or not, and if you want dlss3, which is only on a 4000 series card. Either that or wait however long to see if they drop in price
I'm about to build another pc, and sort of scratching my head over it myself...4070ti tuf card for £830 or a zotac trinity.... i'll prob pair with a 4k c2 tv though, but really don't want to shell out £400 more for a 4080..might as well get a 4090FE, but then you're up to £1600, so double the price of the 4070ti...just a shame memory bandwidth is what it is. Think it would have performed a lot better at 4k is more
If you do choose an nvidia though, wouldn't pay for an OC card..they're generally £100 for for basically 1-2fps more, as nvidia keep a tight leash on the design etc..
I'd get the rm1000x over that.. the e isn't as good even though newer...comes with a 7yrs warranty. I'd look for those with a 10yrs warranty , and seen the rm1000x for same price as the e version..actually, slightly cheaper.
If you're going for a 4000 series nvidia card you could look at one with the new connector for the gpu, then you don't have to deal with the spaghetti Western of the adapter cable
As to gpu, yup, new gen are expensive, in line with 3000 series card so you end up paying more for more fps so fairly linear..the 4070ti is an excellent 1440p card though..4k gets crimped a bit due to bandwidth..
Actually best value of the new gen so far I think..watch hardware unboxed..near top for price per frame.
I just went back and checked 1440p 16 game av for 4070ti was152fps,1%low124. the 7900xt was 158/130..comapre to 3090ti and 6950xt of 145/119 and 145/116, and the 3080 10gb of 119/96. At 4k you're withing 3% of a 3090ti and just above a 6950xt
so 2 ways of looking at it. either you go it's massively expensive compared to the 3070ti it replaces, or you go it beats a 3090ti, which was massively more expensive when launched. i look at it as it outperforms a 3080 by 28% at 1440p, and the 3080 was the best performance for price for higher end gpu last gen..and yes 3080fe is £650 but that was an fe, aib were far more expensive, and saying last year with crypto was exceptional..well it was, i saw a 3080 gor for over £2k at one stage on fleabay, and plenty of people on this forum paying over £2k for a 3090..was actually one person saying how bad a 4070ti was and he had a 3090ti in his sig..if £800 so bad for 3090ti performance, why shell out so much more for a 3090ti then. I try to not look at the name and just see what performance you get. Depressing otherwise as hardly a new generation price/performance upgrade, but 4070ti best so far
I'm not saying buy a 4070ti, but if your in the market for a powerful 1440p and don't mind paying the price, there aren't that many alternatives..if you can get a 6950xt at a good price, will be a good alternative, though up to you whether you want dlss or not, and if you want dlss3, which is only on a 4000 series card. Either that or wait however long to see if they drop in price
I'm about to build another pc, and sort of scratching my head over it myself...4070ti tuf card for £830 or a zotac trinity.... i'll prob pair with a 4k c2 tv though, but really don't want to shell out £400 more for a 4080..might as well get a 4090FE, but then you're up to £1600, so double the price of the 4070ti...just a shame memory bandwidth is what it is. Think it would have performed a lot better at 4k is more
If you do choose an nvidia though, wouldn't pay for an OC card..they're generally £100 for for basically 1-2fps more, as nvidia keep a tight leash on the design etc..
I am slightly confused about this whole situation with 4070ti. I've watched a few people talking about it rather negatively though that might've been in relation to the current prices and the state of the market rather than the card itself. I wasn't even considering 40 series let alone 4070ti as an upgrade because I thought it would be an overkill. That being said, thanks for all the info.
Having just sold my perfectly decent 3080 I'd highly recommend one of those for ~£500 or even better a 3090 FE for ~£750. Though it looks like you don't have access to the Members Market yet.
As for a PSU a 850W is more than enough for a 3080 and just fine for my replacement 4080 FE as it uses less power than the 3080 (or the same with no undervolt).
Your 650w PSU is good quality. I used to have the exact same one and it ran my 3080 FE no problem. If the GPU needs over 350w then I would consider upgrading. Otherwise you're probably fine with what you have, especially as your CPU does not draw a lot of power.
Your 2080 Super is a great card also. Unless you're genuinely unhappy with it's performance I wouldn't bother upgrading. Do you have a budget for the upgrade? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere in the thread.
Would 850W be enough if I added a stronger CPU (potential future upgrade)?
I'm not unhappy with the performance overall. The majority of games that I play run at max without a problem. I don't really have a budget. I wasn't necessarily planning to upgrade anything right now anyway. I mostly wanted to hear from people who have a better understanding of the current situation around GPUs. I was aware of the crypto crash and the arrival of new gen GPUs and thus the price drop. I just wasn't sure whether this is what people have been waiting for or if it is better to wait a bit longer. Basically, is it worth it to upgrade right now or not? Either way, I'm thankful for all the info. If not right now, I will use it in the future once I decide to upgrade.
Would 850W be enough if I added a stronger CPU (potential future upgrade)?
I'm not unhappy with the performance overall. The majority of games that I play run at max without a problem. I don't really have a budget. I wasn't necessarily planning to upgrade anything right now anyway. I mostly wanted to hear from people who have a better understanding of the current situation around GPUs. I was aware of the crypto crash and the arrival of new gen GPUs and thus the price drop. I just wasn't sure whether this is what people have been waiting for or if it is better to wait a bit longer. Basically, is it worth it to upgrade right now or not? Either way, I'm thankful for all the info. If not right now, I will use it in the future once I decide to upgrade.
I am slightly confused about this whole situation with 4070ti. I've watched a few people talking about it rather negatively though that might've been in relation to the current prices and the state of the market rather than the card itself. I wasn't even considering 40 series let alone 4070ti as an upgrade because I thought it would be an overkill. That being said, thanks for all the info.
Would 850W be enough if I added a stronger CPU (potential future upgrade)?
I'm not unhappy with the performance overall. The majority of games that I play run at max without a problem. I don't really have a budget. I wasn't necessarily planning to upgrade anything right now anyway. I mostly wanted to hear from people who have a better understanding of the current situation around GPUs. I was aware of the crypto crash and the arrival of new gen GPUs and thus the price drop. I just wasn't sure whether this is what people have been waiting for or if it is better to wait a bit longer. Basically, is it worth it to upgrade right now or not? Either way, I'm thankful for all the info. If not right now, I will use it in the future once I decide to upgrade.
Most of the reviews I've seen and chat about the 4070ti isn't how crap the gpu is per se, more the price
If the games you're playing work fine now, I don't see a reason for getting a new gpu. Just keep what you've got till it starts being a problem then come back and look again..maybe 5000 series will be same price as 4000 series but with another jump in performance...can only hope
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