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GPU Upgrade Advice Please

OK I have been running MSI Afterburner for about 45 minutes this morning and here are some results.
Please remember I don't really know what I am doing yet I watched a quick tutorial on youtube to give me some idea how to proceed,here goes.

ETS in game Graphics set to High it reports
Mem750Mb
Temp 66
720MHz
Framerate 60 it never moves.

Graphics set to Ultra
Mem 802Mb
Temp 67
720MHz
Framerate between 42 and 48 max.

Hope these are useful.

Thanks for looking.

Alan
 
asimmd said:
OK I have been running MSI Afterburner for about 45 minutes this morning and here are some results.
Please remember I don't really know what I am doing yet I watched a quick tutorial on youtube to give me some idea how to proceed,here goes.

ETS in game Graphics set to High it reports
Mem750Mb
Temp 66
720MHz
Framerate 60 it never moves.

Graphics set to Ultra
Mem 802Mb
Temp 67
720MHz
Framerate between 42 and 48 max.

Hope these are useful.

Thanks for looking.

Alan
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I think you haven't got the GPU usage monitoring enabled on the OSD (onscreen display). I'm not at home at the moment so I can't open up Afterburner, but try clicking the settings button, and it will bring up a windows with lots of tabs, and one of them (I think it's under monitoring or something) you can customise what information of the card to show at where (i.e. Astray, OSD).
 
ETS2 is surprisingly addictive and no idea why lol but some good advice in this thread. I would try to look more to the future and stretch to a 970. That will run fine on your CPU and you get the nice bonus of DSR (for higher resolution on your monitor which will help with some of the jagged edges in that game) and ShadowPlay (so you can record your gameplay and show your friends on youtube or stream live to show your friends on twitch).
 
Gregster said:
ETS2 is surprisingly addictive and no idea why lol but some good advice in this thread. I would try to look more to the future and stretch to a 970. That will run fine on your CPU and you get the nice bonus of DSR (for higher resolution on your monitor which will help with some of the jagged edges in that game) and ShadowPlay (so you can record your gameplay and show your friends on youtube or stream live to show your friends on twitch).
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Forget DSR, I would say go straight for a new 21:9 monitor for any kind of sim games :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAbUv9MoGM
 
GPU Usage is

High
62 degrees - 22% - 43% - 41% 405MHz

Ultra
70degrees - 99% - 50% - 720MHz

I have no idea what this means but it is what is showing in Afterburner.
 
asimmd said:
GPU Usage is

High
62 degrees - 22% - 43% - 41% 405MHz

Ultra
70degrees - 99% - 50% - 720MHz

I have no idea what this means but it is what is showing in Afterburner.
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From what I can make out:

For High:
GPU usage: 22%, fanspeed: 43%, GPU core clock: 405MHz (downclocked due to not enough workload and low GPU usage.
(So on high settings, the CPU is clearly the bottleneck rather than the GTX460).


For Ultra:
GPU usage 99%, fanspeed: 50%, GPU core clock: 720MHz (running at the full speed of the GPU core for your card- which is good).

Now the question is what kind of frame rate you getting when you are 99% GPU usage? And during the time when frame rate is dipping down to 40~50fps range, is the GPU usage STILL remaining at 99%, or has it dropped significantly?
 
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Latest results are

High
66degrees - 73% - 46% - 720MHz 60FPS

Ultra
68degrees - 99% - 49% - 720MHz - Framerate fluctuates 33/46 never constant.
 
asimmd said:
Latest results are

High
66degrees - 73% - 46% - 720MHz 60FPS

Ultra
68degrees - 99% - 49% - 720MHz - Framerate fluctuates 33/46 never constant.
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If those result are correct, then yes it would seem that you would definitely benefit with a faster graphic card for Ultra settings.

If you are not planning on playing anything more demanding, something like a GTX960 or R9 380 should give you a solid 60fps.

But until you do, you could always overclock your 460 to around 825~850MHz on the core clock for a few more fps here and there :p
 
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Thanks to everyone for the help.

Regards over clocking my GTX460 well I have never done this so guidance is needed please.

I only like Nvidia cards had some nasty experiences with the others so I keep away from them.

So if the overclocking doesn't go well which Nvidia I don't want to go as far as a 980 yet

Alan
 
asimmd said:
Thanks for the recommendations problem is I prefer Nvidia.

So a monitor that does better that 1920 X 1080 and a card that
supports it?

Mmmmmmmm suggestions please.
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It's a shame to replace your monitor and card and not go with G or free-sync and unfortunately G-sync has quite a price premium.

How much have you got to spend?

A 21:9 ips monitor is a nice one for driving titles.

Unfortunately Nvidia are slow providing G-sync models, This one has free-sync but that's not important as it will still work with Nvidia. It's a 29" 21:9, A 34" would be better if you can stretch but you will need a new card too run either of these as it's the res that matters not the screen size,

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-128-LG&groupid=17&catid=2907

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-107-LG&groupid=17&catid=2907
 
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I don't have room for a 29" monitor 27 would be about the biggest.
My current monitor is a 24"Dell Ultrasharp.

I don't only use the monitor for games I also use it for Logic on my Mac Mini and Mixcraft on my PC.

If an overclock doesn't give good results the Graphics card is first
MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING Graphics Card 2GB

Monitor cash would probably take a couple of weeks something like
Asus MX279H 27" LED Monitor with IPS Panel.

Comments?
 
Hi, I've looked at that monitor myself in the past, Here on OCUK it has 7 reviews which is a decent number here and they all rate it well so it looks like a nice option, I never went with it due to the 5ms response time but I regret it now as I think the TN model I got has played havoc with my eyes over the last 4 years and I now require glasses when using it. Now that I'm due an upgrade I'm definitely going IPS this time. 2gb's on the graphics card is okay but it is borderline so if you can put an extra 20 or 30 quid on top to get the 4 gb model it may be worth doing, Having said that 2gb's will probably be enough 99% of the time so it's not a concern just a luxury. They sound like decent choices to me, It's a shame you can't go G-sync though. Look around and see if that's possible within your budget.
 
asimmd said:
Thanks to everyone for the help.

Regards over clocking my GTX460 well I have never done this so guidance is needed please.
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The MSI Afterburner that you been fiddling around with is the first and foremost the most popular graphic card overclocking tool/software :D

On the left where it shows you the clock speed, memory speed etc, you can modify speed of your graphic card as simply as either moving the slider bar, or just to click on the number of the clock speed, and edit it to your desired speed, and then click "apply" button and that's it!

To save your applied/current overclock as a profile which you can enable/recall later, you just click the "save" button, and then the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 buttons on the left will start flashing, and you click on which ever one you wish to save your current overclock to and that's it. So basically it has room for saving up to 5 different overclock profiles of different settings and speed.

Now regarding the GTX460, if my memory serves me right almost all GTX460 can overclock to 800MHz on the core clock without requiring playing around with increasing voltage, and some good ones can even push to 825-850MHz. For overclocking to beyond 850MHz, most GTX460 would require increasing voltage, though mileage varies from topping out at 875MHz to as high as 950MHz!

For now I guess you could start some something basic like increasing the core speed to 800MHz, and probably increasing memory clock by 5%. Later if you are feeling adventurous, you can start with giving the voltage a tiny bump at a time to pushing the overclock even higher, if it gets to the point of that the stock voltage can no longer keep the card stable under load at a certain speed (i.e. when you trying to push beyond 800MHz on the core clock you start getting driver crashes or even blue screen).

You might as well take this opportunity to experiment with overclocking the graphic card to get some understanding and experience, and what you learn and experience from this, the same principle still applicable to your overclocking of newer cards in the future.
 
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OK the new numbers after increasing the clock to 800 are not inspiring.
High
67degrees - 99 - 47 - 720MGh Framerate 53/57 depending on scenery complexity.

Ultra
66degrees - 99 - 44 - 720 Framerate 38

So will going for the 960 4gig make a big difference?
 
asimmd said:
OK the new numbers after increasing the clock to 800 are not inspiring.
High
67degrees - 99 - 47 - 720MGh Framerate 53/57 depending on scenery complexity.

Ultra
66degrees - 99 - 44 - 720 Framerate 38

So will going for the 960 4gig make a big difference?
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It's still showing your core clock at 720MHz, so the card has not been overclocked. Have you clicked "Apply" after changing the clock speed?

And yes 960 would be much faster.
 
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