GPU's have stalled like CPU's

[JediFragger]

AMD haven't had a decent card since the 9800 Pro.

290/X smashed nVidia a new one imo. Since then? Meh.

 

[SCOLANATOR]

It's only stalled due to AMD having nothing competitive with the GTX 1070 and above. GPU hardware is advancing rapidly as always. Lets hope Vega brings some much needed competition.

 

[Rroff]

There was also the water being rendered consistently when there wasn't any need etc.

In some cases, especially with fast modern hardware, it can be less costly and/or considerably reduce complexity to just render some things anyhow rather than do occlusion testing. The more condemning aspect of that water IIRC was the lack of optimisation of the subdivision with distance as it was rendering max quality on a plane all the way to the horizon which is one of the easiest things to apply LOD to.

 

[greatash]

It's £400 now (mining) yes but when the 1070 launched you could get it for £375 and under.

Same as the 970 was around £300, launched at ($330). Taking brexit into consideration, works out to a similar pricing point.

i specifically remember my brother buying a 970 on launch for £260 or £269, not £300. thats over a hundred quid cheaper than a 1070 at £375, and only the bargain bin ones were £375 or under at launch. decent aib £400 since the founders launch price became the RRP

gtx 980 was around the 1070 price point (£400~)

1070s being now £450 is a joke, you could've got a 980ti for £550 two years ago for the same performance. not to mention pascal is quite old now. same with the 1060, could get the same performance 3 years ago at the same price

so in the last 2-3 years everything under £300 has stagnated, 980ti/1070 perf went down £100, and the TI has gone to og titan prices

 

[greatash]

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[mid_gen]

It's not so much the tech that's stalled....it's that prices have gone up.

Paying 2-300 for a mid-range card every couple of years used to get you a nice performance upgrade. With this last generation those mid-range prices have gone up to nearly 400.

It's really taking the appeal out of PC gaming for me tbh.

 

[kylew_is_back]

Nothing to do with that, its about the perception of the products and the company, that's driven by the community and tech journalists.

The HD 5870 was a very good card in comparison to the GTX 480 and yet AMD lost market share to nVidia
The HD 6970 was a good card vs the GTX 580, AMD continued to lose market-share
The HD 7970 was a good card vs the GTX 680, AMD continued to lose more market-share
The R9 290X was a good card vs the GTX Titan, more market-share was lost to nVidia

At this point AMD are out of money, they have no money left for R&D and with that they are all but absent from the GPU market.

AMD are not to blame for that, excessive nVidia fanboyism by this community and even some tech reviewers are.

AMD will never be competitive in the GPU space again until peoples mindset changes, actually it may already be too late.

I don't think that we have to blame fanboyism, nvidia products at peace of mind unlike AMD products.
You know that when you buy nvidia GPU you will have a hassle free experience, and probably that is the main reason why nvidia have a larger market share.

 

[rs155]

I don't think that we have to blame fanboyism, nvidia products at peace of mind unlike AMD products.
You know that when you buy nvidia GPU you will have a hassle free experience, and probably that is the main reason why nvidia have a larger market share.

So true. the only gpu i have ever had an issue with was my 970 from NVIDIA. Sticking fans and a sagging card, would never buy another NVIDIA card ever. Made so cheap.

 

[ubersonic]

You can thank AMD's utter lack of effort for that. They haven't been competitive in years.

While that statement is technically accurate it's also a bit misleading. Nvidia have maintained a lead for nearly three years now, and more than one year is indeed "years" but it's not like AMD haven't been competitive or even superior in recent times. Hell, less than five years ago the HD7000 series were practically teabagging the GTX600 series on price performance and Nvidia were selling their cards entirely on brand power.

 

[ubersonic]

You know that when you buy nvidia GPU you will have a hassle free experience, and probably that is the main reason why nvidia have a larger market share.

Sadly this is quite true, I currently have two workstations near me, one with a FireMV 2260 the over with a Quadro NVS290. Two cards from the same era with the same RAM, the same TDP, the same DirectX support, etc. Both cards are running their latest drivers, the AMD card is using a Windows 7 driver released in 2010, the Nvidia card is using a Windows 10 driver released <12 months ago.

 

[shamus21]

GPU progress has not stalled but slowed down. I would say the biggest problem now is that cost in relation to performance is to high .

 

[Squink]

290/X smashed nVidia a new one imo.

And quickly got trampled beneath the "lol energy bill" train, which managed to overcome the decency of the card.

 

[james.miller]

And quickly got trampled beneath the "lol energy bill" train, which managed to overcome the decency of the card.

hmm.

I remember the cards being neck and neck when i bought a 970. I also remember power consumption was basically what it came down to - the 290x were slightly faster but a good deal more power hungry and a HUGE deal more when overclocked - AMDMatt clocked his 290x's at over 300w per card as i recall. Anyway, at the time, the 970 pipped it for me, but it was close... very close, so i chose the more efficient card. Magic drivers, mantle and dx12 changed the field somewhat, but that all came some time after i bought my 970. 'Couldn't have known at that point that the 290x would pull ahead.

 

[Squink]

hmm.

I remember the cards being neck and neck when i bought a 970. I also remember power consumption was basically what it came down to - the 290x were slightly faster but a good deal more power hungry and a HUGE deal more when overclocked - AMDMatt clocked his 290x's at over 300w per card as i recall. Anyway, at the time, the 970 pipped it for me, but it was close... very close, so i chose the more efficient card. Magic drivers, mantle and dx12 changed the field somewhat, but that all came some time after i bought my 970. 'Couldn't have known at that point that the 290x would pull ahead.

The past is not indicative of the future but I recall the 6800U Vs 850xtpe duel. I ended up with a 6800u owing to availability. The 6800u had the finesse while the xtpe had the brute force. Over the following months the xtpe systematically smashed the 6800u out of its strongholds, eventually spanking it in doom 3. That's my abiding memory of amd cards. Brute force over all and that's what made the 290x such an excellent card.

 

[DELETED_195422]

It's down to a combination of consoles and a lack of fierce competition from AMD. Sadly.