Grafitti on private properties

Interesting...Do you know anyone involved in graffiti? Have you spoken to or even met such a person?

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Who really gives a crap about speaking to them, if they deface property we should deface their faces.

They're all dirty chavs and should be hung.

I bet your one of those weirdo people who like graffiti and think its art when actually its crap.
 
hmm I'm not sure about the contrived thing penski. I don't particularly like modern art which I'm supposing that graffiti artists pertain to. My friends style is very good, but I think the graffiti he puts on it sort of ruins the art itself. Just my opinion.
Its still part of the art itself though, so dont know.

What constitutes a graffiti artist then?

To be honest, the writeup at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti is pretty good. A lot of people I 'know' think that anything outside fo the hiphop scene isn't graffiti and that anyone outside of it can't be a graffiti artist.

I'd say that anything thrown 'where it shouldn't be' is graffiti and that a graffiti artist is someone who does such acts.

Who really gives a crap about speaking to them, if they deface property we should deface their faces.

They're all dirty chavs and should be hung.
You're welcome to try, ducky. Want me to email my address? ;)

I bet your one of those weirdo people who like graffiti and think its art when actually its crap.

You couldn't be further from the truth. I'm simply someone who spends the occasional night with cans in his hands.

Edit: anyone who makes idiotic blanket statements such as Ken is only showing the restrictions of their own intellect.

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TTIUWP. can we see some of your work/crime (depending on opinion) then. Interesting about the graffiti snob cliquing. Never knew that- thanks.
 
TTIUWP. can we see some of your work/crime (depending on opinion) then. Interesting about the graffiti snob cliquing. Never knew that- thanks.

I'd never incriminate myself on a public forum. I'm smarter than that ;)

I've got stuff in Edinburgh, Berwick, Bath, Tyne and Wear, Nottingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Most big places in Yorkshire, Bristol, London, Brighton...

Some in the States and Australia too.

I personally think that tagging is pointless outside of the traditional 'territorial demarcation' realm.

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city dwellers dont= yobs. Clearly.
Hood wearing (normally) 'youths' from underprivileged places crawl out from wherever to 'express' themselves and leave messages and tags. Sometimes abusive graffiti.

I think that most of these graffiti 'artists' are chavs. Look at the horrible train line ones or the dark, dank, murky places where you walk at night wishing you were in a taxi.
Was not going to make a racial slight FYI.

Better?

So are you saying that because society doesnt except graffitti as an art form these 'yobs' as you put it are out of order?

Hmm ok, take the paint of em lads, lets get them back robbing cars and mugging old women

Jesus this is the 21st century people!
 
but what do you create? Sounds like you've done a lot... What inspires you to do it?

Pieces...Anything from three foot square up to the size of an artic trailer.

As for inspiration; I like to create.

If I'm feeling naughty, I'll spend a night jacking billboards. If I'm feeling profound, I'll create a philosophical piece. If I'm feeling 'arty', I'll do some wildstyle. If I'm feeling agit-*, I'll do something political.

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And robbi, you think that if you owned your own house (you might, I dunno) and it got 'tagged' by a load of 'lads' in Liverpool, it would be an honour to have art on your house? It would be ok, because they're only expressing themselves by defacing your property?

Your property= private property which therefore renders graffiti vandalism.

Not sure about public property, but graffiting on Nelson's Column or something like that would be unthinkable.



Penski, that's interesting. I'm wondering if that means that you're writing things in 'philosophical moods' slogans or something? Not sure how it would work otherwise. Would like to know what it actually entails to do it your way.
 
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More the fact hes a long way from where you are, even smacking you wouldnt be worth taking a flight to do it :)

My point is that every single person on these forums for as long as I can remember who has decried graffiti and tarred graffiti artists as 'scum', 'chavs' (which is the de-facto catch-all term on these forums for 'someone I don't like the look of' and you can probably count the correct usage of the term on these forums using the fingers of one hand :rolleyes: ), 'yobs' and so on has neither met a graffiti artist, talked with one at length, seen anything being done or anything approaching that.

Bunch of keyboard warriors spitting vitriol at something they know nothing about.

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Still no need for e-violence, especially when its not really gonna happen

I find it better to threaten people in the local area, it gets more of a rise :)
 
I tend to agree with Penski, sometimes its annoying when people who are ill-informed shoot their mouths off to
1. amuse themselves
2. get a reaction
and so forth.

He makes a valid point, but in the eyes of the law it's hard to get away from the presentation they are given in society, especially in cities. And what with the 'gang culture' and 'teen violence' that we have at the moment, it does make it easier to muddle terms of many things in our society.
Best to be willing to hear people out first and then make your view, enlightened or not.
 
Not sure about public property, but graffiting on Nelson's Column or something like that would be unthinkable.

Far from it. I firmly believe that in the right context, graffiti on such a prominent public monument is not only valid but downright essential.

Penski, that's interesting. I'm wondering if that means that you're writing things in 'philosophical moods' slogans or something? Not sure how it would work otherwise. Would like to know what it actually entails to do it your way.

Usually something to just make you think a bit more than 'Kev woz ere!'...I've done pieces based around George Berkeley's work on Immaterialism, Kant's schema and so forth. Not necissarily text work but often including it. :)

In terms of political stuff, there's an abattoir near Nottingham that has 'Kill, eat, exploit the weak' outside it in 4' high lettering on an oldschool cloud background.

Not saying it was anything to do with me, mind...Bloody hippies. ;)

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What philosophical and political statements have you made then? I'm intrigued, any pics?

As noted previously, I'm not putting pics of anything I've done on here. Hell, I could be talking complete crap and making all this up! ;) [/covering own back]

'Political' work is usually billboard jacking or 'direct action' stuff. I was a lot more politically active when I was younger and held more vehemence for that which I held as 'true' than I do nowadays; I've chilled a lot, become a bit more apathetic and focus more on 'pretty colours and shapes' and 'stuff to make you think'.

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