GRANNYS!

9761 said:
We all should make a partition and take it to 10 drowning street, Re-take tests over 65 or something, or get them off the road altogether! :D

Won't it be a bit hard asking Tony Blair to make compulsory tests for the over-65s if we're all holding bits of wall in front of us? :D

I despise old people, they don't even need to be in a car for me to want to destroy them!
 
burnsy2023 said:
I wouldn't say that there wasn't a case for action just because the government aren't doing anything about it. It's not just my opinion, just look at the personal experiences.

Burnsy

Seems very closed minded imo...

Wait till you turn 60+ Think you will still have the same oppinion? I doubt very much.
 
9761 said:
Hi,

Need to vent some frustration!

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Got nasty neck and backache now, It was when I was on the way home about 5mins left of my lesson when it happened, glad it was not right at the begining as it would have ruined the day.


so why have you not started a claim for compo off the old biddy? that is going to be worth a couple of grand at least. It will pay for your first years insurance at least...


as a side issue on the granny thing....

I have to take a medical every 5 years to keep my hgv licence. it should be compulsory for everyone. I also think that there should be bi-annual eye tests.

My wife works in the post office and she is scared witless by some of the dodderies who come in for road tax. a lot can't understand the need for an mot certificate, some think an insurance quote is good enough to tax a car, some can't see to fill out the form, yet they still drive.

if i think i am incapable of driving safely then i will return my licence. i will not risk other peoples lives by being unfit behind the wheel of 44 tonnes of artic or behind a tonne of family saloon. Doctors should be far more strict when doing the 70 year olds medicals. Mind you, they should.. as i said earlier.. make the medical apply every 5 years from the age of 45, same as the hgv one.
 
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West said:
Seems very closed minded imo...

Wait till you turn 60+ Think you will still have the same oppinion? I doubt very much.

Well, I haven't been accused of being closed minded before.

I would say that I've seen some stupidity on the roads by many people of different ages, however old people seem to stand out (Although, so do younger drivers). I hate generalising, but being in a few situations where lack of awareness has proved to be dangerous, tends to change that.

I have no objections to be retested when i'm 60+, i'd see it like having an eye test every two years (although driving tests every two years is a little frequent. Every 5 years seems about right)

Burnsy
 
i'm going to side with burnsy regarding plonkers of all ages. i have had many of them not see my truck, many who think i stop quicker than a car and many who dont realise that i need a bit more space on the road than a mini. old people usually dont see the truck or think that i will stop in less than 20 feet because they want to be in my lane 20 mph slower than me.
 
I would be a fan off the compulsory retest every 5 or 10 years, not the ridiculous test where you have to demonstrate basic ability to look in the mirrors every couple of seconds and reverse round a corner but a test to make sure you are not an idiot/blind or hopeless behind the wheel. It wouldnt be expensive and we could redirect people to have more lessons if they need them or just tell them that their driving days are over/numbered
 
Rilot said:
When I were a lad, an old woman in a Fiesta decided to pull out in front of me, knocking me off my motorbike. She then had the courtesy to run over my leg while manoevering her car out of the middle of the road. After all this she had the audicity to claim that it was all my fault and that as she had a car she had right of way over motorbikes no matter what the rules of the road may say.
She also tried to launch a complaint with the police, saying that I verbally abused her while she was running over my leg. Now I don't know what most people say when they have 900kg of car on their calf muscle, but the words from my mouth were, understandably, rather foul.

Sorry but LOL. :D
 
Heh, as someone who lives in one OAP town and works in another, I see this stuff all to often.....

But I also remember my father, who at the age of 70 was still doing TLGP's against the boy racers (and winning, I might add). Right up until a week before he passed away!! :D

And I rememer my mother, who at the age of 58 (6 months before she passed away) yelling abuse at someone who couldn't have been over 50 to "find your gas pedal and learn how to use it!!". It was made even more comical by the fact that my mother was Scottish and when she got upset her accent came out thick as thieves. So imagine the reactions of a bunch of Seattle people to this!! :p

I know that my parents were very much the exception to the norm, but I just thought I'd let people know where I get my driving habits from!! ;)
 
West said:
who are we to judge?

we have no right to judge peoples driving by our standards.

there are plenty of Elderly driver round where I live, yes they go slow, yes they have slower reaction times, but who am I to tell them to get off the road because they dont do things as fast as you or myself do?

we can judge because a large amount of them ARE a danger to other road users.

there are times when they do 45mph on main roads(yes straight ones where it is actually safe to do more), which is wholly inapropriate.
then there is the main issue about them being dangerous, pulling out on people, not seeing people around them.
i've had them cut right in front of me on mini roundabouts, they just drive right over them without looking.
i had one guy pull out of his driveway when i was overtaking a lorry, he only saw me when he got into my path and tried pulling up on the grass verge, now tell me that theyre fully aware if they cant see a vehicle overtaking and they pull out on them.... :mad:

they need a retest at 60 and some sort of yearly or every 2nd year check to make sure they are capable of being safe on the road.
 
burnsy2023 said:
I wouldn't say that there wasn't a case for action just because the government aren't doing anything about it. It's not just my opinion, just look at the personal experiences.

Burnsy


why don't the government do anything? Because it would cost votes and money. The money wouldn't worry them, but the loss of votes would.
 
aye im now at the point were im very fearful of being in a car with my grandad driving, yes hes still got the speed he should but his spacial awareness when reversing is a little iffy, and of course, being the stuborn git he is any road problems are entirely the fault of other drivers. Not as bad as some but he is getting there, also he does rather like to push the revs maybe a little too high quite often, im all for performance testing, but not on an H reg BMW 3 series
 
If your neck is still hurting tomorrow then drop me an e-mail ;)

I have family in the PI business...

My sister got £2k when someone did exactly the same to her.
 
Got checked up last night,

Woken up this morning and it hurts all the from my neck to my back.

Im gonna have a lay down!
 
Rilot said:
When I were a lad, an old woman in a Fiesta decided to pull out in front of me, knocking me off my motorbike. She then had the courtesy to run over my leg while manoevering her car out of the middle of the road. After all this she had the audicity to claim that it was all my fault and that as she had a car she had right of way over motorbikes no matter what the rules of the road may say.
She also tried to launch a complaint with the police, saying that I verbally abused her while she was running over my leg. Now I don't know what most people say when they have 900kg of car on their calf muscle, but the words from my mouth were, understandably, rather foul.

what was the outcome to that?? sounds nasty.

- my grandad has finally accepted that his driving days are numbered. he can still drive ok but finds it very hard to walk. so he is going to give up. he is a really good driver for a 82year old. only problem was driving still had everything else perfect.
 
It's all well and good saying old people should lose the right to drive but, put yourself in their position. For some of them, it's their last bit of independence. Losing it would quite literally 'finish them off'.

The fact is that, statistically, it is we younger drivers that cause by far the most serious accidents. If everyone drove around at 25mph, the roads would be a lot safer.

In an ideal world, I'd want compulsary retesting every 5 years for everyone, not just old people but it's not an ideal world unfortunately.

Edit: Did anyone see that Top Gear episode a few years back where they put one of the presenters into dark glasses and something resembling a fat suit to simulate how an old person feels whilst driving?
 
Stinky said:
what was the outcome to that?? sounds nasty.

No major injuries, aside from a severely bruised and cut lower leg and a couple of broken fingers. Insurance went my way. Police prosecuted her for dangerous driving. No idea of whether she was found guilty or not or what the penalty was. She wasn't speeding so I guess they would have just let her off with a slapped wrist.

Adz said:
In an ideal world, I'd want compulsary retesting every 5 years for everyone, not just old people but it's not an ideal world unfortunately.

I agree with this. I also think one should have to sit an advanced test similar to the IAM exam before being allowed to drive a car or bike above a certain power or performance.
 
Rilot said:
No major injuries, aside from a severely bruised and cut lower leg and a couple of broken fingers. Insurance went my way. Police prosecuted her for dangerous driving. No idea of whether she was found guilty or not or what the penalty was. She wasn't speeding so I guess they would have just let her off with a slapped wrist.



I agree with this. I also think one should have to sit an advanced test similar to the IAM exam before being allowed to drive a car or bike above a certain power or performance.

Ditto. There are far too many people with no idea of how to control a car properly driving performance vehicles.
 
Had one of these OAP encounters last week.

Was going into the local car park (Poplar Rd in Solihull for anyone that knows it), where you turn right and up a ramp just after the entrance, to discover a couple of cars parked on the ramp as some old muppet was at the top trying to turn the wrong way. It's blatantly obvious that you can only turn left and the "turning" to the right is for cars coming "round again", so there's a large kerb which he was trying to mount unsuccessfully. By the time I got there he'd obviously decided against this manouvre and was in the process of performing a 17 point turn to try and get back round the right way.

After this we followed him round to the left and then he decided to go the wrong way yet again, this time successfully mounting a kerb. He stopped half-way through this procedure for some reason and just sat there for a few seconds before moving off.

At this point several people on their way to or from cars were standing and gaping at his stupidity so I felt an uncontrollable urge to wind the window down and shout "learn to drive you stupid old fart" at him, so I did :) I distinctly heard a few people chuckling as I drove off.
 
To be fair, that is a rubbish carpark. Poorly laid out, dark and tight in places.

However!

They should use this carpark as a test for these old duffers. Can't get round it, shouldn't be on the road! ;)

Get a nice lunch in Censa downstairs tho!
 
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