They dont need that kind of pressure at 15.
Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [16th - 18th September 2022]
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Caporegime
He only had 5 minutes. Probably be back to the under 16’s now.
He plays in the under 18's.
Caporegime
Too many people were reading too much into the game last year. The team was utter banter compared to todays
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Soldato
Dominant display by Newcastle but very poor in the final third and too many sideways passes waiting for Trippier to catch up to play to put a ball in the box. Can no one else do this like? Bournemouth, like Place the other week, defended very deep and made themselves difficult to break down but we have absolutely no-one in that current side able to open a door with ASM out and Bruno just returning to fitness. It's no good having a 60 million quid striker when you can't create chances for him. Took his pen well mind.
Soldato
In the past these are games (Wolves, Palace and Bournemouth) that we would have lost due to the other team nicking it at the end. So we are progressing and once we have Wilson, Bruno and ASM we will start winning those games
I think we battered em, on another day we'd of won 4/5-1. I think the key thing atm is we can't afford Bruno to get injured and Fraser/Almiron do not cut it, our first 11 is great, our back ups are only just good enough, we will never be able to push on with them and will stagnate. Hopefully we can do something about it in the next few windows.
Soldato
I was told they were aiming to spend £100m per window for the first 5 windows
I'm not sure who told you that but you'd break ffp.
Soldato
Depends and how much our commercial grows and we have so much room for growth considering how little we were paid for having **** direct plastered all over everything, anyway we will see, I have no reason not to believe the person that told me.
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Do you mean 100mil per year as opposed to per window?
Soldato
No per window, even the money experts were saying we could spend up to £600m and still be within FFP due to Ashley being frugal and commercial growth that the majority of other clubs have done and NUFC haven’t.
Either they don't know what they're talking about or you've not understood what they've said. The way FFP and the PL's profit and sustainability test works is far more complicated than that.
What Newcastle could have spent the day of the takeover and what they could spend today is completely different and it will certainly be different again in 2 years time. FFP works in 3 year cycles so what credit Newcastle had in the bank from the 18/19 season (where they made a profit) no longer applies to to this season's calculations. By next summer the 19/20's accounts (which although you made a loss, from a FFP point of view you maybe broke even or made a small profit) will have also dropped off the FFP calculation and so on.
It's nigh on impossible to predict what Newcastle could spend next year or the year after without knowing Newcastle's revenues and other expenses for last season (which will be revealed in a few months), this season and next season. I posted a thread from Swiss Ramble in the Newcastle thread a while back which explains this better.
Soldato
Listen I’m not going to argue, we have already spend over £200m in the last 2 windows and are likely to spend close to another £100m in January(as they want a right winger and an attacking midfielder), if that’s the case the person I was talking to was correct in what he told me. £500m in 2.5years isn’t far fetched as we’re almost halfway there.
feel free to mark this post and come back to me on February 1st
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I'd suggest that whoever you've spoke to is a bluffer and is just wildly guessing because even Newcastle won't be able to tell you what they could spend 18 months from now. For example if Newcastle were to qualify for Europe anytime in the next 3 seasons then their break even target drops by £60m odd - that equates to £200m(ish) worth of transfers in the 3 years prior to that point.
I'm not saying Newcastle will or won't spend x, I'm simply pointing out how complicated FFP actually is and how what Newcastle (in theory) could have spent 9 months ago will be hugely different to what they can spend in 3 or 9 months time.
Soldato
That’s fair enough, as I said bookmark this post and come back on February 1st
Why?
Soldato
You said the person I spoke to was a bluffer, I don’t believe he is, What he told me was we would spend £100m per window before the takeover went through and he’s been right so far. if he’s right we will spend another £100m in January, if that’s the case I have no reason to believe we won’t spend another £100m next summer and winter.
I will have no problem admitting i was wrong in believing what he told me if we haven’t spent another £100m on feb1st
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I'm not sure how Newcastle spending £100m will prove that they will continue to spend £100m for the next 3 windows for a start but go back and read the chain of posts because it feels like we've been having 2 different conversations here.
I replied to your claim that financial experts said Newcastle could spend x and pointed out how it's not nearly as simple as that. You then replied saying mystic meg told you that you can and I (tried to) explain that not even Newcastle can tell you with any certainty what they can spend in 18 months time.
Again, I'm not saying Newcastle will or won't spend £100m (or more), I'm trying my best to explain that FFP is a rolling 3 year target and the amount Newcastle can spend will be changing every season and unless you can predict the future (I'm guessing it wasn't actually mystic meg that you spoke to), it's simply impossible to state that Newcastle can spend x over 5 windows because the amount they can spend will be dictated by their financial performance in this and future seasons. So yes, if somebody has told you that Newcastle will spend £100m per window then they're just guessing - it might turn out true but it won't be based on anything but a stab in the dark.
There's a world of difference between spending and adhering to FFP and spending and breaking FFP though, there's already precedent in the PL for breaching the rules in the form of a fine so maybe they would be banking on that rather than a points deduction if down the line they were found guilty, maybe they'll cook the books like man city to ensure they don't really fall foul of it. The PL doesn't seem to really care one way or the other though.