Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [5th - 7th November 2021]

Thats really not that bad. He bounces off the ball and up. Maybe a yellow but not a red in a million years.
 
Guess we know which way this game is going, horrific that Cresswell was even over the top of the ball from that range

fez said:
Thats really not that bad. He bounces off the ball and up. Maybe a yellow but not a red in a million years.
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So over the top of the ball and off his feet D:
 
fez said:
Thats really not that bad. He bounces off the ball and up. Maybe a yellow but not a red in a million years.
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If that’s the case he isn’t in control surely, hit him under the knee and trailing leg come scything round for good measure, that was worse than Pogba’s red
 
Purdy said:
So over the top of the ball and off his feet D:
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It was a weird one. Normally they roll over the top of the ball and up but he seemed to stud the ball reasonably far down it and then bounce up when the ball rebounded back.

I don't think it was fundamentally a dangerous tackle and I really don't like the current trend of penalising outcome over intent and I'm not sure there was intent there. Its like the ones where the player hurt has managed to put their foot down in the worst possible position and bad luck means the other guy lands on his foot.
 
fez said:
It was a weird one. Normally they roll over the top of the ball and up but he seemed to stud the ball reasonably far down it and then bounce up when the ball rebounded back.

I don't think it was fundamentally a dangerous tackle and I really don't like the current trend of penalising outcome over intent and I'm not sure there was intent there. Its like the ones where the player hurt has managed to put their foot down in the worst possible position and bad luck means the other guy lands on his foot.
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Rolling over the top of the ball isn't a huge amount better? Arguably worse getting hit full weight mid shin than on the knee lol.

Penalising outcome is correct in majority of cases, poor judgement and execution has led to the situation just because they didn't mean isn't an escape. Else they'll just repeat the action.
 
Purdy said:
Rolling over the top of the ball isn't a huge amount better? Arguably worse getting hit full weight mid shin than on the knee lol.
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I'm not saying its better or worse, I'm saying that it wasn't as high as the usual ones that roll over the top of the ball so its arguably not as intentionally dangerous.

Purdy said:
Penalising outcome is correct in majority of cases, poor judgement and execution has led to the situation just because they didn't mean isn't an escape. Else they'll just repeat the action.
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I don't agree. A huge number of tackles can result in nasty outcomes with a bit of bad luck. We shouldn't be penalising people for really bad luck.

Jota has just jumped into Ogbonna there and cut him with his elbow. Should he get a card for that because of an unlucky outcome to something that wouldn't normally do any harm? Of course not.
 
"the speed makes the challenge excessive, the follow through with the open sole to the knee makes it a case of endangering the opponent."

Its not even debatable. The idea that he doesnt even get a foul for it is absolutely baffling from the ref. To then view it several times and not even ask the ref to come over? Just lol
 
Just watching Salah get back there, has Ronaldo done any tracking back like that, this is where Ole has trouble as the players don’t “give their all” for him
 
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