Greenlizard0 Premier League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [14th - 15th September 2024]

This is pure copium :cry:
Perhaps, but its very logical in my mind and I was actually saying it right from the start of the season, not just when we lost. I wanted to know what the new manager would bring to the table when things were going wrong and now I've seen it, that he at least does opt to twist rather than just stick with whats on the pitch until the 85th minute, so its good to see that he will at least attempt to roll the dice.

Perhaps its a "weird" take but we're all different people who look at things in different ways :)
 
Perhaps, but its very logical in my mind and I was actually saying it right from the start of the season, not just when we lost. I wanted to know what the new manager would bring to the table when things were going wrong and now I've seen it, that he at least does opt to twist rather than just stick with whats on the pitch until the 85th minute, so its good to see that he will at least attempt to roll the dice.

Perhaps its a "weird" take but we're all different people who look at things in different ways :)
No, it’s not logical at all. You could well be challenging for title after the start you’ve had, but suddenly a defeat is a good thing as it shows what the manager can do when it goes wrong?

He did change it and it affected nothing, you still didn’t score and lost. Where’s the positives in that lol?
 
I was glad Slot tried to change it but that’s it.

Everything else was rubbish. Salah was dire all of it and some of his passing were extremely poor he should have been the attacker that was taken off

Sobo was mostly meh.

Gakpo and Nunez did nadda when on.
 
No, it’s not logical at all. You could well be challenging for title after the start you’ve had, but suddenly a defeat is a good thing as it shows what the manager can do when it goes wrong?

He did change it and it affected nothing, you still didn’t score and lost. Where’s the positives in that lol?
Thats your view on it and thats fine, I have my way of looking at football and you have yours, I'm ok with that. Been supporting Liverpool for longer than most people in the forum have even known what football is, so I'm happy with the way I view the game and the club. Encountered lots of people over the many decades who have different thoughts over football and have always been happy for them to have their way of thinking and me have mine, never needed them to explain themselves to me and I've never needed to explain myself to them, different strokes for different folks and all that :D
 
I kind of see where you're coming from in wanting to know how a manager handles adversity. However, you lost me at wanting that over a good win.
Didnt necessarily have to be this match, could have been any match really, is just about seeing how this manager does when things go wrong in comparison to what other managers have done when things go wrong. Its the sort of thing I like to know sooner rather than later and now I am able to know, so now its a question answered.
 
Didnt necessarily have to be this match, could have been any match really, is just about seeing how this manager does when things go wrong in comparison to what other managers have done when things go wrong. Its the sort of thing I like to know sooner rather than later and now I am able to know, so now its a question answered.
And what did you learn?

apart from salah is just as undroppable when he's having a stinker under Slott as he was under Klopp :p
 
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And what did you learn?

apart from salah is just as undroppable when he's having a stinker under Slott as he was under Klopp :p
Well there are a few things that I am interested in when things go wrong, 1st off, what does the manager attempt (if anything) during the game, does it work, does he then try something else if the plan B doesnt work. Many would argue that one of Klopps biggest issues for example, was a lack of a decent plan B and virtually no plan C. So that was the first thing I wanted to know in regard of a new manager.

Then there are some post match things that I'd like to know about a manager, such as how they handle things after a loss, what do they say, how do they come across.

Then there is the later follow up after things have gone wrong, do they repeat it, do they change things up after its gone wrong, is it clear that they've taken onboard the dropped points and learned from it, or do they simply keep repeating the same events
 
Well there are a few things that I am interested in when things go wrong, 1st off, what does the manager attempt (if anything) during the game, does it work, does he then try something else if the plan B doesnt work. Many would argue that one of Klopps biggest issues for example, was a lack of a decent plan B and virtually no plan C. So that was the first thing I wanted to know in regard of a new manager.
So what was different in the last 20 minutes opposed to the 1st 70?
Then there are some post match things that I'd like to know about a manager, such as how they handle things after a loss, what do they say, how do they come across.
Such as?
 
So what was different in the last 20 minutes opposed to the 1st 70?

Such as?
Sadly, wasnt much difference , bar the last 5 mins or so, in the last 20. The one plus I was able to take was that this manager at least does make comparatively early substitutions rather than waiting til the 85th minute.

As for the immediate post match, I like to see what the managers take on things is, are they honest, do they see what went wrong, is there an indication from their demeanour, eyes, words, body language, that they might learn from this, or do they blame the length of the grass, sun in the players eyes or that they dont play well on even date-numbered Saturdays.
 
Sadly, wasnt much difference , bar the last 5 mins or so, in the last 20. The one plus I was able to take was that this manager at least does make comparatively early substitutions rather than waiting til the 85th minute.
Making subs on/or around the 60th is so much par the course for managers that its a meme these days. As Pigeon touched on they were totally the wrong subs attacking wise as both Gakpo and Nunez were anonymous in the game time they had (expected for Gakpo but not so much for Nunez). personally i dont think anything can be learned from the loss re Slot
As for the immediate post match, I like to see what the managers take on things is, are they honest, do they see what went wrong, is there an indication from their demeanour, eyes, words, body language, that they might learn from this, or do they blame the length of the grass, sun in the players eyes or that they dont play well on even date-numbered Saturdays.
"We lost the ball so many times in simple situations. That is the story of the game.", I think anyone that watched the game could see that, i would say if anything he is hamstrung (like Klopp) by not being able to take off Salah - although Dom was **** poor at times as well.
 
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