Greenlizard0 Premier League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [14th - 19th February 2025]

Awful quality in that match.
Criticise Amorim for not at least putting some fresh legs on. We had a strong period in the game and then completely ran out of legs which made any cohesion almost impossible. Spurs were there for the taking and we couldn't do it.
 
A shambles really, poor quality match as expected.

I really like Amorim, but Ratcliffe isn't going to let him spend a fortune based on this evidence. Big trouble ahead.
 
Frustrates hell out of me should have had a point out of that but well done Spurs.

We are so toothless upfront its atrocious.

Feel he should have brought Obi on at 80 mins and taken a gamble we lost anyway so why not give the kid some time to do something, bizarre choice imo from Amorim.
 
manic111 said:
Whose turn is it to be thrown under the bus now? Has he gone through the whole team and got back to Maguire yet?
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This reminds me of that Villas Boas chap. Looked so good at Porto. 84% win percentage. Came to Chelsea and was found to be completely out of his depth.

The board have got egg on their face now as they got rid of ETH which I think was a mistake now. They have to stick with Amorim now but they are going to need to bring in 5-6 players at least in the summer then you have to try and get them to gel together. Next season is basically a written off and without any Europe next season we will suffer big time with FFP.

Amorim will be under immense pressure next season and will be gone before the first international break and we will be in massive danger of becoming an Everton or something along those lines.
 
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manic111 said:
In all seriousness, aside from the bottom three these look like the worst two teams in the league at the moment
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I mentioned it the other day re Spurs but one of these two could conceivably win the Europa and end up in the CL. Either of these qualifying for the CL would be one of the biggest injustices I can remember.
 
adam cool dude said:
Changing managers mid season.

Playing Amorim's system requires a pre-season for these players imo. They look completely lost. Now Amorim is going to be under immense pressure come the new season.
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Nah I was just questioning your use of "now". You've been pushing ETH for months.
 
I don't think you can argue it was a mistake to get rid of ETH, he was a miserable failure in the end.

You could argue we should have kept RvN and then appointed Amorim in the summer - which is what he wanted.

Berrada has caused this by demanding Amorim joined in November.
 
BaZ87 said:
I mentioned it the other day re Spurs but one of these two could conceivably win the Europa and end up in the CL. Either of these qualifying for the CL would be one of the biggest injustices I can remember.
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I think it is deluded and arrogant by English media to even think that Spurs and United are favourites for that comp. Frankfurt, Lazio and Bilbao are all in the top 4 of their leagues and would batter either Spurs or United.
 
Robbo said:
A shambles really, poor quality match as expected.

I really like Amorim, but Ratcliffe isn't going to let him spend a fortune based on this evidence. Big trouble ahead.
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Not sure that’s entirely true. We can’t say what they have or haven’t discussed behind the scenes. We could easily say Ratcliffe’s completely on board with it and knows what Amorim is having to deal with considering how he’s joined and what he’s inherited. We have no evidence to the contrary.
 
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adam cool dude said:
I think it is deluded and arrogant by English media to even think that Spurs and United are favourites for that comp. Frankfurt, Lazio and Bilbao are all in the top 4 of their leagues and would batter either Spurs or United.
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I won't pretend to have followed any of those but won't dispute that there will be better sides in the competition than Utd and Spurs however there's not enough clearly better sides where you could rule out either winning it. Depending how the draw went you might only need to beat one of them to end up winning the competition.

The quality of the Europa League is pretty rubbish this season and there's no CL sides dropping down into it anymore. If Utd or Spurs (more realistically Spurs) could get their act together, they have a real opportunity to save a terrible season.
 
Converge said:
Not sure that’s entirely true. We can’t say what they have or haven’t discussed behind the scenes. We could easily say Ratcliffe’s completely on board with it and knows what Amorim is having to deal with considering how he’s joined and what he’s inherited. We have no evidence to the contrary.
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But based on our perceptions of Ratcliffe & co, I don't feel that's particularly likely...
 
adam cool dude said:
Amorim will be under immense pressure next season and will be gone before the first international break and we will be in massive danger of becoming an Everton or something along those lines.
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Not with the money you generate, the reality is you're worse than Everton. Becoming them would be a step up because you spent and have spent so much more due to much better numbers to work with regards PSR. Don't get me wrong Everton are the 2nd worse run club in the league but you're the one at the bottom. I think it's going to take someone to come in and have the balls to completely start again and stop just scatter gunning new managers and signings.
 
Robbo said:
But based on our perceptions of Ratcliffe & co, I don't feel that's particularly likely...
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Yeah, for sure. It would be incredibly foolish not to though, because what would be the solution then? They have to commit to something, otherwise it’s just another season of uncertainty and writing it off. Not that next season will be any less bumpy as he needs a fair few windows.
 
Converge said:
Not sure that’s entirely true. We can’t say what they have or haven’t discussed behind the scenes. We could easily say Ratcliffe’s completely on board with it and knows what Amorim is having to deal with considering how he’s joined and what he’s inherited. We have no evidence to the contrary.
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As per my comment earlier about "Open heart surgery" as prescribed by Rangnick. Amorim is the surgeon and the patient is on the table and may not pull through. Someone had to do this otherwise you cannot compete for a title and that is the ultimate goal.

I think there was a good example today of the sort of problems the club has. Dalot was many fans player of the season last year but he was only a willing athlete and there is absolutely nothing special about him. Dorgu has shown today what level is required to play modern attacking football. The contrast was stark. Dalot is not technically good enough, he's not creative enough and he's not a good enough defender. So our best player last season is not good enough - that tells you a lot about the level of this squad and how much is required to change it.

Amorim is being ground down by it. He can't seem to catch a break but they just need to keep working hard.
 
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