No he isnt?
Greenlizard0 Premier League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [30/31 Dec 23 1/2 Jan 24]
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This is glorious. We had walking commentary on penalty decisions from Liverpool fans all season on penalties and which shouldn’t be given diving, not enough contact. Yapping about refs despite the fact that Liverpool has been awarded some of the softest penalties you ever did see.
Ole Dom loves a dive. I’m half expecting equations showing player speed, direction of travel and point of contact with a blade of grass which made the player throw himself to the ground in front of an open net
I will be extremely disappointed if I don’t see a white board soon showing these equations.
Ole Dom loves a dive. I’m half expecting equations showing player speed, direction of travel and point of contact with a blade of grass which made the player throw himself to the ground in front of an open net
I will be extremely disappointed if I don’t see a white board soon showing these equations.
Is this just your way of coping with getting beat by us again or are you just trying to distract us all from how bad Newcastle are right now?This is glorious. We had walking commentary on penalty decisions from Liverpool fans all season on penalties and which shouldn’t be given diving, not enough contact. Yapping about refs despite the fact that Liverpool has been awarded some of the softest penalties you ever did see.
Ole Dom loves a dive. I’m half expecting equations showing player speed, direction of travel and point of contact with a blade of grass which made the player throw himself to the ground in front of an open net
I will be extremely disappointed if I don’t see a white board soon showing these equations.
You can whine as much as you like, your side got battered and were fortunate it wasn't a cricket score. At best you can complain about a decision in the last minutes of the game when you were already losing and almost certainly going to go on and lose. It doesn't change the fact that you were beaten by the better side. If I were you I'd be a bit more concerned with how poor Newcastle are right now. 1 win in 8, vs 10 men Fulham, knocked out of Europe, the League Cup and in free fall in the League. Oh and btw, what were your views on all the dodgy decisions Newcastle have received this season? I'm sure you were outraged by the poor officiating, right?
Is the last sentence self reflection as you're admitting to being a hypocrite having just attacked others for, in your opinion, being hypocritical.
At lest I can see my faults
Caporegime
The standard of fouling these days is absolutely appalling, or should I say what constitutes a foul.
It's so inconsistent it's unbelievable.
Gary Neville in his prime would probably concede a penalty or two every game with the current "Any contact and hitting the ground" = A penalty
It's so inconsistent it's unbelievable.
Gary Neville in his prime would probably concede a penalty or two every game with the current "Any contact and hitting the ground" = A penalty
They did up the amount of “physical contact aloud in tackle before it’s called a foul” probably hasn’t helped
Soldato
You are trying to change the way the game is played, that isn't how it works, even if I might agree with you. You can't not go down and then dive and not call it a dive.
So is your position that a foul has to be enough to take a player off his feet? Because that's not how the game has been played for years now.
seems to be that if a player doesnt go down straight away then its a dive. Utterly irrelevant that a foul can unbalance a player so he goes down half a second later, or someone takes another step, thats a dive in those circumstances according to Klinck
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At the end of the day a foul is if a player is impeded. Was Jota impeded?
Yes
Therefore its a foul. Could Jota stay on his feet and try and balance himself? Absolutely. Should he have to?
No.
Caporegime
Thats not what constitutes a foul otherwise every contact in the box is a penalty. Defender grapples with you at all, hes impeding you. He holds your shirt at all, hes impeding you. There has to be some level of understanding that its a contact sport and not every contact is a penalty and yet every contact does impede you....
A freelick or in this case a penalty is up to the referee if he/she deems it to be careless, reckless or using excessive force.
*Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed
*Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
*Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off
On top of that you've got the dogso aswell, regardless refs are far more lenient with fouls in the box that would be given outside, that's nothing new. Hell, keepers holding onto the ball longer than 6 secs should be an indirect fk yet they are never given.
As with any decision left up to refs there is a huge amount of subjectivity.
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I'm a Villa fan and it amazes me this 'foul' in particular is garnering such attention. In the same week we took all 3 points from a penalty that came from a dive almost as obvious as Jotas. That game was both more contentious and more poorly refereed then the Liverpool game. I'd be disgusted if I was a Burnley fan.
Liverpool innit
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I'm not a liverpool fan, and I can't..
I can see the contact, and I can see the over dramatization of that contact by a player.
If over dramatization is a dive, given how many players over dramatize every single foul, then there are quite literally hundreds of drives a game..
The only person that really "knows" is Jota himself.
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Soldato
I don't understand why its difficult to get. In todays game if players feel contact in the box they go down and then the ref/VAR decide if its a pen. If a player chooses not to go down and the chance doesn't materialise and so they throw themselves to the floor 2 steps later its a dive.
I also don't get why fans can't just say their clubs players dive when they dive. I've seen players dive for my club and I'm happy to call it a dive. I can't stand diving and I find simulation to be just as bad. Its cheating pure and simple.
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